Moderation Issues (6)

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  1. Gregory,
    It has only been an issue once before that I can recall and that prompted Lizzie’s clarification. We don’t have much of a spam, porn or defamation problem, either. So we need not speculate unless it crops up again.

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  2. Well, the new US Government position is that it is “the virus from wherever.”

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  3. Mung:
    Well, the new US Government position is that it is “the virus from wherever.”

    COVID-19 was unavailable for comment.

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  4. Admins,

    I’d like to respond to some of Byers recent comments sent to guano…
    If I quote bits of them, will you be forced to guano them???

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  5. J-Mac,

    I’ve suggested to Robert he put up a post with his views on Covid-19 and confine himself to expressing them there. You could wait for that or start an OP yourself and Robert could comment in your thread. It would make sense for (shall we say) alternative views on the current pandemic to be in one place.

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  6. Alan Fox:
    J-Mac,

    I’ve suggested to Robert he put up a post with his views on Covid-19 and confine himself to expressing them there. You could wait for that or start an OP yourself and Robert could comment in your thread. It would make sense for (shall we say) alternative views on the current pandemic to be in one place.

    Is Byers going to do an OP?

    I have an idea in mind for an OP on coV2019, but I worry it is going to be misrepresented not only by Byers like crowd…
    Just like it has been the case with the chloroquine…

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  7. J-Mac: Is Byers going to do an OP?

    I don’t know.

    I have an idea in mind for an OP on coV2019,but I worry it is going to be misrepresented not only by Byers like crowd…
    Just like it has been the case with the chloroquine…

    If your OP contains inaccuracies, it’s likely someone will point them out. If you put stuff in the public domain, you should expect it to be questioned and challenged.

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  8. Alan Fox: If your OP contains inaccuracies

    ‘If’? With jmac it is pretty much a given based on past posting history.

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  9. PeterP: ‘If’?With jmac it is pretty much a given based on past posting history.

    “IF, is a matter of what one, like you and many others, would like it to be “accurate”, or “true”…The so-called selective truths, or confirmation biases…

    Natural selection paradox is a perfect example…

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  10. J-Mac: “IF, is a matter of what one, like you and many others, would like it to be “accurate”, or “true”…The so-called selective truths, or confirmation biases…

    Supporting claims with evidence is one way of demonstrating accuracy.

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  11. J-Mac: “IF, is a matter of what one, like you and many others, would like it to be “accurate”, or “true”…The so-called selective truths, or confirmation biases…

    Let’s start with one of your most recent examples. You claimed that statins overwhem the liver yet despite requests you are unable to support that claim. Simply ignorant and false claims by you and the list is long in your case.

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  12. PeterP: Let’s start with one of your most recent examples.You claimed that statins overwhem the liver yet despite requests you are unable to support that claim.Simply ignorant and false claims by you and the list is long in your case.

    Read my comment again… I was speculating… which you deliberately omitted…
    Due to this misrepresentation, we can’t keep you on…😉

    This issue is a perfect example of what I was talking about:
    The massaging of data…
    Here is an example of the ongoing debate about cholesterol , statins etc

    https://youtu.be/TRB0jOfymLk

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  13. Alan Fox: Is there one?

    Well, some say COVID-19 is a perfect example of Darwinian natural selection in action…

    Others say, Darwinian natural selection can’t be stopped and should be, or evolution will not progress…

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  14. Yes, PeterP,

    J-Mac has quite the back-log of unsupported claims to clear.
    ETA: And it’s getting longer…

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  15. DNA_Jock:
    Yes, PeterP,

    J-Mac has quite the back-log of unsupported claims to clear.
    ETA: And it’s getting longer…

    I gave you enough clues to recover from your erlier embarrassments …

    You claimed to work with enzymes, right? So, you should know this fundamental fact.
    How do coV viruses enter the host cell?
    Are you familiar with the the receptor upregulation term and what could cause it?
    No, eh?
    It’s funny that, if something could not be googled, you can’t find it, you and the farmer PeterP… 🤣

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  16. Alan Fox: Supporting claims with evidence is one way of demonstrating accuracy.

    Like what?
    Darwinian natural selection is omnipotent, as long as it doesn’t effect you personally? It’s a double edged sword, or a natural selection paradox, depending on how your life, or your family members are effected ?
    Can you see my point?
    No, eh?

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  17. J-Mac: Can you see my point?

    I often have great difficulty in following what your comments are meant to convey. And, frankly, no I can’t see your point. Try a complete sentence or two.

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  18. Atorvastatin

    OVERVIEW
    Introduction
    Atorvastatin is a commonly used cholesterol lowering agent (statin) that is associated with mild, asymptomatic and self-limited serum aminotransferase elevations during therapy and rarely with clinically apparent acute liver injury.

    I was thinking that statins overwhelm the liver by blocking some receptors, and preventing it from making too much of it, so that the liver would have to work harder to produce the necessary cholesterol, so that people wouldn’t die…

    Look what I found thanks to DNAJock and PeterP!

    Acute liver injuries?!

    I had no idea you knew about statins causing clinically apparent acute liver injuries…
    It looks like DNA-joke and PeterP will be doing some back paddling…nothing new…

    One thing I like about TSZ is that it makes me learn new things…
    Thanks TSZ!

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548236/

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  19. J-Mac: I gave you enough clues to recover from your erlier embarrassments …

    You claimed to work with enzymes, right? So, you should know this fundamental fact.
    How do coV viruses enter the host cell?
    Are you familiar with the the receptor upregulation term and what could cause it?
    No, eh?
    It’s funny that, if something could not be googled, you can’t find it, you and the farmer PeterP

    Are you referring to ACE2?

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  20. Alan Fox: I often have great difficulty in following what your comments are meant to convey. And, frankly, no I can’t see your point.Try a complete sentence or two.

    Yes. You have…
    You should probably ask Joe Felsenstein how population genetics interprets cov2019… vs natural selection

    BTW: Joe, I hope you are well…keeping it safe…
    I look forward to “clashing” with you on many topics in years to come, God willing!
    Please let me know how you, and your wife, are..

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  21. DNA_Jock: Are you referring to ACE2?

    You didn’t even bother to check the pic and article I linked?
    Speaking of backlog of ignorance and hypocrisy…
    How do you sleep at night? 🤔

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  22. J-Mac: Yes. You have…
    You should probably ask Joe Felsenstein how population genetics interprets cov2019… vs natural selection

    BTW: Joe, I hope you are well…keeping it safe…
    I look forward to “clashing” with you on many topics in years to come, God willing!
    Please let me know how you, and your wife,are..

    I’m OK.

    I look forward to years of paying no attention to the “topics” you raise, leaving you to rave on.

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  23. J-Mac: Read my comment again… I was speculating

    No you were not. You made a definitive statement that is obviously false which is your typical MO.

    J-Mac: you and the farmer PeterP

    I am also a degree in Pharmacology and Toxicology so you aren’t going to be able to blow smoke up my ass!

    J-Mac: Atorvastatin is a commonly used cholesterol lowering agent (statin) that is associated with mild, asymptomatic and self-limited serum aminotransferase elevations during therapy and rarely with clinically apparent acute liver injury.

    rKey word rarely. Give enough people a dose of a drug and someone is bound to have difficulty metabolising it. Hardly constitutes ‘overwhelming the liver’ as you claimed.

    J-Mac: I was thinking

    Not your strong suit.

    J-Mac: I was thinking that statins overwhelm the liver by blocking some receptors, and preventing it from making too much of it, so that the liver would have to work harder to produce the necessary cholesterol, so that people wouldn’t die

    Wrong.

    J-Mac: Acute liver injuries?!

    key word ‘rarely’. Did you forget that part?

    DNA_Jock: Are you referring to ACE2?

    He should be but is too ignorant of the mechanism of coronavirus injury and incorporation into the cells of the respiratory tract to do so. He evidently did not understand my previous posts outlining this established pathway. Again no surprise considering the source.

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  24. Joe Felsenstein: I’m OK.

    I look forward to years of paying no attention to the “topics” you raise, leaving you to rave on.

    Since you managed to contradict yourself in the same sentence, now I have evidence you are really okay…😉

    Groovy!

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  25. J-Mac: Well, some say COVID-19 is a perfect example of Darwinian natural selection in action…

    …Or a means of design in action. Or the designer is pissed at the old and sick. Hard to say.

    Others say, Darwinian natural selection can’t be stopped and should be, or evolution will not progress…

    Those “others”, always saying stuff.

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  26. Alan Fox: The word is autophagy, not autophogy.

    I know… it keeps self-correcting to the wrong spelling…
    Give me few minutes. I’m going to use another device…

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  27. J-Mac: Why don’t you make the same comment when others submit OPs?

    Because their OPs are of higher quality. Titles free of spelling mistakes; complete sentences; a semblance of coherent thought.
    Reasons like that.
    😉

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  28. DNA_Jock: Because their OPs are of higher quality. Titles free of spelling mistakes; complete sentences; a semblance of coherent thought.
    Reasons like that.

    Would you like me to point to some recent OPs that broke all those rules, regardless?
    What are the excuses, and why many?

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  29. DNA_Jock: Because their OPs are of higher quality. Titles free of spelling mistakes; complete sentences; a semblance of coherent thought.
    Reasons like that.

    You are referring to your own OPs, right?
    Thanks to your god Darwin, you don’t have any of those!
    Silent sigh…
    Let us pay…

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  30. Address the content of the post, not the perceived failings of the poster.

    That means you, DNA_Jock.

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  31. Mung,

    If you think there’s been rule violation, you can discuss it here.
    Failure to follow a guideline, yawn.
    I was entertained by your concern trolling re Sal’s motivations, though. That was some high end trolling.

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  32. Mung:
    Address the content of the post, not the perceived failings of the poster.

    That means you, DNA_Jock.

    He has good days and bad days …but mainly the latter…it’s the enzymes…they need to be redesigned by sheer dumb luck…😉

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  33. DNA_Jock, you’re a liar. Plain and simple. I get to say that here. 🙂

    Not that you actually care. Not that you’ll ever change.

    Meanwhile, continue to engage in your campaign of moral superiority, because, you know, if you believe it, it must be true.

    DNA_Jock: If you think there’s been rule violation, you can discuss it here.

    I think there has been a rule violation, and I brought it up here.

    http://theskepticalzone.com/wp/moderation-issues-6/comment-page-49/#comment-272530

    Why are you pretending that I did not bring it up? Fundamental dishonesty comes to mind.

    Failure to follow a guideline, yawn.

    Yup. That’s you, in a nutshell.

    So while on the one hand you complain that I failed to mention any rule violation, you also acknowledge that I did. Your defense being that it wasn’t a rule, but merely a guideline. Like the rules don’t apply to you.

    Tell me something we don’t already know.

    DNA_Jock: I was entertained by your concern trolling re Sal’s motivations, though. That was some high end trolling.

    Never doubt your mind-reading skills. Ever. They have always been, and shall ever be, spot on.

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  34. I don’t think DNA_Jock is attempting suicide by cop. He merely lacks impulse control.

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  35. Why was this post moved? ?? What rule was broken.

    Alan Fox: Fair warning. You are straying into moderation issues. You know the drill.

    No I am not, you are making that up. I am talking about fun jewish jokes.

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  36. Alan seems to be making up even more new rules. I make it clear I DON’T want to talk about moderation, and Alan says a post is about moderation, so he can move it. Is that his new attempt at censoring?

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  37. Alan Fox:
    phoodoo,

    You are asking about whether you can post “Jewish” jokes. That’s a moderation issue.

    I am not asking if we can. I am suggesting we should. Because you think words don’t matter. So it should be fun.

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  38. phoodoo: am not asking if we can. I am suggesting we should. Because you think words don’t matter. So it should be fun.

    I suggest you bear in mind the rules and admins former actions in interpreting them and then post as you think fit. If a comment of yours breaks rules it’s likely to get guano’d.

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  39. Alan Fox,

    I can’t read your mind. Do your understand the job of moderator? Making up clauses isn’t one of them.

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  40. Anyone else experiencing problems connecting to TSZ? I’m wondering if we’re nearing some capacity limit.

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