Moderation Issues (6)

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  1. Alan Fox:
    Anyone else experiencing problems connecting to TSZ? I’m wondering if we’re nearing some capacity limit.

    I had a small issue with a failed update.

    Something that occurs quite frequently though: hyperlinks often result in a ‘download’ dialogue rather than following the url. May be my browser, but it only happens with TSZ. When it happens, it affects every hyperlink. It just kind of goes away after a while.

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  2. Allan Miller: Something that occurs quite frequently though: hyperlinks often result in a ‘download’ dialogue rather than following the url. May be my browser, but it only happens with TSZ. When it happens, it affects every hyperlink. It just kind of goes away after a while.

    I get that, too. I was putting it down to lower (and sometimes intermittent) internet speed. My phone offers a download later if there’s no signal but then my laptop is now doing the same at odd times.

    As you say, it goes away but I’m thinking maybe canary, coalmine.

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  3. I have the same experience. Try again a few minutes later and it has resolved itself…

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  4. I also get this bug and it resolves if I go to history and click on a succesful older link to the site. I think phoodoo borught this issue up sometime ago.

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  5. Some of my comments were removed a week ago and an explanation given that it would invite trolling. I will comply.

    But in my defense, said phraseology referring to a certain city was used by the prestigious scientific journal Nature in a January 2020 editorial that is referenced under a title with supposed objectionable phraseology that said “Stop the Xxxxx virus”.

    Furthermore, a Taiwanese newspaper uses said supposed objectionable phrase.

    The premise for this editorial exercise of deletion was that it invited trolling or misunderstanding. That’s fine.

    But if I were Chinese of Taiwanese origin (and I have Chinese blood), the use of the said supposed objectionable phrase was to point the finger at a corrupt regime that punished medical doctors in a certain country (name not mentioned) in a certain city (name not mentioned) for simply telling the truth.

    We can use alternative phrases perhaps that could be misconstrued to be racist but still accurately convey the corrupt conduct that hindered the spread of truth that might have made the situation manageable.

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  6. stcordova,

    Hey Sal, how do you like how spray tan is handling this situation so far? Do you think it is even possible to be doing a worse job? The most cases in the world, will end with the most deaths, chaos, policies changing daily, ignoring experts, making fun of governors, getting angry at tough questions, trying to weasel funds for himself, firing Naval commanders who expose outbreaks on their ship, being against oversight on the funds for the bailout, cutting medical workers out of the sick leave program, exempting big business, calling it fake news, playing golf…..

    Who could be worse Sal?

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  7. stcordova: But if I were Chinese of Taiwanese origin (and I have Chinese blood), the use of the said supposed objectionable phrase was to point the finger at a corrupt regime that punished medical doctors in a certain country (name not mentioned) in a certain city (name not mentioned) for simply telling the truth.

    The issue was not sensitivity for the corruption of the government rather the use promoted and justified the aggressive impulses of the dim witted among us towards individuals who have nothing to do with the said government.

    Right now my own government could be viewed in much the same light , allowing the increase in the severity thru mismanagement ,lies ,cya , as the government of xxxxxxx.

    Perhaps in order to simplify the description , the scientific accepted name would be easier.

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  8. how do I post a screenshot image of a couple of graphs? The file is .png and about 700kb in size.

    thanks in advance

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  9. PeterP,

    You can upload one file (up to 2Mb) with a comment. Just click on the wide button just above the comment box. That should open files on your computer, from which you select the one you want and click open. Then click “post comment”. It should appear below any text you type in. It may take a little while for a large file and slow upload speed.

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  10. Thanks, Alan. I was doing that but I was expecting the image to show up in the preview box and did not realize it would only show after I posted the comment.

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  11. Rather nice timing; there’s a new post in queue.

    Unlike myself and some “untrusted” others, hyper-IDist johnnyb, Fellow of the new Bradley Center, doesn’t need to wait when posting here, as a Lizzie-invited Moderator at TSZ, who turned down that “honour”.

    Sorry, but that’s funny & I’m smiling as I write this. And also warmly welcoming johnnyb, if he’d like to dialogue in this new thread, along with his own.

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  12. The virus OP debate is missing the “e” at the end of the debate …lol
    Please fix!
    Tnx

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  13. Just out of curiosity:
    Is “Are viruses dead or alive? “OP under moderation or the typical biased “moderation” like my LTEE OP where admins would allow attack on me, rather than the idea?

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  14. J-Mac: rather than the idea?

    What idea? You’ve just asked a question and then insulted everyone.

    J-Mac: This is pure ignorance…embarrassing…

    J-Mac: Really?
    You may have jumped the gun…
    Nothing new. You can just pretend that nothing happened, just like our beloved admins and the rest of Darwinists here…

    J-Mac: Who cares?
    You spoke for more than few here, including many 5 o’clocks and those who don’t want the “pink dress”…

    So, to be clear, the same admins you have just mocked and insulted are the same admins you are appealing to now?

    Does this work in real life for you too?

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  15. J-Mac: The virus OP debate is missing the “e” at the end of the debate …lol
    Please fix!
    Tnx

    Re-reading your own posts just once is apparently too much effort for you and you then have to beg others to spend their time fixing your mistakes.

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  16. Why was this comment of Nonlin’s sent to guano? Is it so hard to expect the admins to be consistent? Nothing he said here is anything you guys don’t allow being said here everyday by atheists.

    Nonlin.org on April 16, 2020 at 7:41 pm said:
    Flint: And the most important path to take from the first question is “insufficient data”.

    Nonsense. Data is plentiful to establish non-randomness in biology.

    Did you read: “A quick glance at biological systems show extreme precision repeated over and over again and indicating essentially zero probability of system-level randomness. Kidneys and all other organs are not random, reproduction is not random, cell structure is not random, behavior is not random, etc. “?

    Flint: Wind designs some fascinating formations, which are far from random but certainly not conscious or deliberate.

    Nonsense. How would you know that’s not “deliberate”?

    Flint: Why go through that exercise.

    Just to see you demonstrate your ignorance. Is that exercise too difficult for you? Of course it is.

    Allan Miller: If the character state is measured in base pairs, an allele can be any length desired – it does not have to map to a coding gene. And you don’t need to do any of this to know that the frequencies of all such alleles in a population – all variants of a particular segment – must add up to 100%.

    So you can’t answer anything? Anything at all? Then why comment about things you just don’t understand?

    Have it your way:
    – What’s “character state”?
    – give an examples of a collection of allele of “any length desired”
    – explain how you know for sure that (whatever) collection of alleles is for sure 100% of all possibilities

    Allan Miller: You don’t need to do anything practical to demonstrate that the entirety of a set is 100% of it.

    You DO need to do something practical to demonstrate you understand something. Anything.

    Will you pass the practical exam? Or will you reply with more foggy bullshit?

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  17. phoodoo: Why was this comment of Nonlin’s sent to guano?

    Specifically, this remark.

    You DO need to do something practical to demonstrate you understand something. Anything

    It’s a personal insult against a fellow member which is against the rules. There are no mitigating factors (such as substantive content, new member not aware of the rules) so I moved it. It can be reposted minus the rule-breaking content.

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  18. Alan Fox,

    You are an idiot Alan. I can show you fifty posts, just from the last month that is attacking the poster more than this one, that you did nothing about. And when I show you those fifty posts you will just make up bullshit rationalizations for the verb tense, or the phase of the moon it was written under or you didn’t see it, or you were going to but then had to take out the trash and forgot, or some other nonsense excuse.

    Do you lie as much in person as you do on this site Alan?

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  19. phoodoo,

    You are welcome to post comments here when you see a rule-breaking comment. I suggest you include a link.

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  20. Alan Fox,

    If I show you ones you ignored which are clearly more offensive and more against the rules than the one you moved, will you apologize to Nonlin, and say you will be better in the future and not be such a biased, unfair moderator anymore? Will it change anything about the clearly biased way you operate? About the way Jock operates?

    Otherwise, why would I waste my time doing the work for you once again, only to have you make more excuses?

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  21. phoodoo,

    I can’t answer hypothetical questions. Comments either are fine or they break rules. Comments that break rules may be moved to guano. The rules aren’t onerous and most members in the vast majority of their comments have no difficulty in avoiding rule-breaking comments. On what criterion are we going to decide whether one rule-breaking comment is “more offensive and more against the rules” than another?

    phoodoo: Otherwise, why would I waste my time doing the work for you once again, only to have you make more excuses?

    To demonstrate the accuracy of your claim?

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  22. Alan Fox,

    How about this one Alan:

    TSZ’s scientifically illiterate idiot!

    How about this one Alan:

    I think it’s great the way you don’t mind making yourself look like such a fool every day poohdoo. Playing the screaming Creationist moron suits you to a tee. Even better than your childish tantrums over moderation

    How about this one Alan?

    Adapa: I wonder what psychological issue gives phoodoo cause to demonstrate what a clueless idiot he is on such a regular basis? Coronavirus attacking his brain?

    No? Then how about his one Alan:

    Adapa:
    Heh.

    Phoodoo is still making his moronic Creationist demands.

    This?

    J-Mac is still playing the clown to hide his ignorance

    No Alan? Then this?

    Mung is still acting as their shit-stirring enabler.

    Some things never change.

    No problem? Didn’t see them. The frustration is understandable. It is not personal. I can’t read English….

    Do you think you are even slightly believable?

    Are there some people that believe you? Who?

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  23. Alan Fox,

    I know you are good at finding excuses Alan, but don’t worry, they are all from when you are the moderator. And many of from threads you participated in. And many are from just before your posts so you would have had to have seen them. And I have already pointed them out to you, on this very thread. And they are recent. So, what will your next excuse be, can’t we just preempt any more excuses you are going to come up with?

    Do you really think you are fooling anyone by pretending you are unaware? When even KN sees how duplicitous you are Alan, maybe you need a rethink.

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  24. phoodoo: You are an idiot Alan.

    Seems like the sort of comment you are complaining about to me. Perhaps lead by example?

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  25. OMagain,

    When did I write that? That was a long time ago. Was it even today? Links please? What was the context? Was there other content? I don’t remember seeing it. Its hypothetical.

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  26. phoodoo: Links please?

    Here ya go. See how easy that was.
    I should warn you that half of your examples of comments you found “clearly more offensive and more against the rules” may not be rule violations. There is no rule against “comments phoodoo finds offensive”. You do not understand the rules.
    OTOH, I would not have guano’ed the comment in question.
    ETA: Also, OMagain provided a link too. Blue text.

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  27. Alan Fox: You DO need to do something practical to demonstrate you understand something. Anything

    It’s a personal insult against a fellow member which is against the rules. There are no mitigating factors (such as substantive content, new member not aware of the rules) so I moved it. It can be reposted minus the rule-breaking content.

    I disagree that this merits being sent to guano. I say more disparaging things than that to phoodoo all the time, and I like them!

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  28. Kantian Naturalist: I say more disparaging things than that to phoodoo all the time, and I like them!

    I can’t believe that, KN. I don’t think you have a disparaging bone in your body.

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  29. Alan Fox: I can’t believe that, KN. I don’t think you have a disparaging bone in your body.

    Oh come on, don’t be ridiculous. How do you think he stops paraging after a long day?

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  30. Alan Fox,

    Alan did those comments break the rules? Are they wore than nonlin’s and yet you did nothing? What did you ask me to prove you are a biased hypocrite when you all you do is make excuses and do nothing, and won’t admit the truth?

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  31. Alan Fox: You DO need to do something practical to demonstrate you understand something. Anything

    It’s a personal insult against a fellow member which is against the rules.

    What?!? What did I say, and what did you understand? The point was: any theory needs practical applicability. Do you have something against practice?!?

    Are you familiar with “In Theory There Is No Difference Between Theory and Practice, While In Practice There Is”???

    My reply was to:

    Allan Miller: You don’t need to do anything practical to demonstrate that the entirety of a set is 100% of it.

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  32. Nonlin.org: What did I say

    This!

    You DO need to do something practical to demonstrate you understand something. Anything.

    It’s an accusation of general ignorance and against the rules. I quote:

    Address the content of the post, not the perceived failings of the poster.

    °This means that accusing others of ignorance or stupidity is off topic
    °As is implying that other posters are mentally ill or demented.

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  33. Alan Fox: It’s an accusation of general ignorance and against the rules. I quote:

    False and stupid. Explained above – you didn’t even read and/or understand.

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  34. I’d agree with reinstatement. As the target, I don’t really see anything in it to take particular exception to. It lacks substance, but hey, it’s nonlin.

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  35. Allan Miller:
    I’d agree with reinstatement. As the target, I don’t really see anything in it to take particular exception to. It lacks substance, but hey, it’s nonlin.

    Fair enough. Moved back.

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  36. Allan Miller: I’d agree with reinstatement. As the target, I don’t really see anything in it to take particular exception to. It lacks substance, but hey, it’s nonlin.

    So a request for experimental proof “lacks substance”? Suit yourself. This means you won’t have any problem addressing that request?

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  37. Nonlin.org: So a request for experimental proof “lacks substance”? Suit yourself. This means you won’t have any problem addressing that request?

    If you will grant as axiomatic my original statement that allele frequencies must add up to 100%, I don’t need to provide experimental proof. It seems absurd to deny it – that someone must look at all the alleles in the population at a given locus before one can be sure they add up to 100%. I can’t imagine what an exception, experimentally determined, would even look like.

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  38. Alan Fox,

    Alan, when are you going to address all those other posts I listed? Do those break the rules or not? You said show you, I showed you, then you ignored responding, other than to say show you more. Jock claims they don’t break any rules (of course he would claim that, atheists wrote them after all).

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