Guano (3)

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Post n° 56711

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  1. Entropy:
    Corneel,

    Nonlin has a talent for contradicting herself/himself, and for being pretty hard to be shown so. She/he then just denies or goes to some tangential thing, also wrong. His paragraphs at the OP are filled with contradictions. I tried once to show Nonlin just one contradiction, and no way she/he would understand it. She/he would go on and on on tangents, until she/he decided that I was too impolite, rather than confronting her/his mistake. From my experience, I’d guess that even if you showed 1000 articles where fitness is defined apart from survival, you won’t convince her/him.

    You and your buddies Corneel and Adapa are just squatters. I have yet to see any original idea coming from your dead brains.

    Instead of brain dead comments like that, why don’t you show “fitness separate from survival” and be done? Also, what “contradiction”? Are you sure it’s not just in your dead brain?

  2. Nonlin.org: What “common ground”? The only thing common has to be the observable. And one thing we have never observed is exquisite design just popping into existence for no reason whatsoever, aka the evolutionary mythology.

    That’s not evolution you idiot, that’s creationism.

  3. CharlieM:

    Only our physical senses tell us this. Otherwise there’d be no sound understanding of birds as existing in one clade.

    You need to have a think about the difference between our sense experience before and after our thinking minds interpret what is sensed.

    Gee, dumbass, I have. That’s why I can discuss generalizing from the facts, while you’re blithering stupidly about “archetypes.”

    “Bird” is a concept, not a bare perception.

    Well, chump, that’s why I discussed them as different, like,

    No, the differences are objectively real. The concept comes from generalizing from the observed characters.

    Of course it’s more complex than that, but that gets to the gist of empiricism. Your projection of your ignorance and incompetence, rather than discussing the issue, only shows how little you’ve thought about these matters.

    You would do well to consider the difference.

    You would do well not to project your failings onto others.

    Glen Davidson

  4. colewd:
    Flightless animals don’t have aerodynamic wings, feathers properly oriented, bones the right size and the proper joints etc.

    Yes they do you willfully ignorant fucking moron.

    Gradual Assembly of Avian Body Plan Culminated in Rapid Rates of Evolution across the Dinosaur-Bird Transition

    The fossil record is FULL of non-flying theropods with all the precursor part. All that had to happen was wing assisted incline running (WAIR) evolved into gliding evolved into longer and longer flapping glides evolved into primitive powered flight.

    Wing-assisted incline running and the evolution of flight.

    Right now you’re behaving like a petulant child who won’t eat his vegetables because he thinks they’re icky.

  5. CharlieM:

    Well I would say that it is still a fact that this blog is littered with unnecessary, off-putting remarks that do nothing to further discussion. Comments like these are best ignored and this would be a better place without them. Do you agree?

    Readers already have the power to ignore comments. They even have the power, via the Ignore feature, to ignore commenters.

    It’s up to them whether they choose to exercise those powers, and that’s how it should be. The last thing we need is some doofus like Neil running around closing comments on threads.

  6. I am also blocked, so I have this to say about…

    Oh, wait I can’t. I have to wait for Alan and Neil to make sure I can post.

    If I agree not to embarrass them maybe I can be unblocked…

    Nah.

  7. phoodoo: I am also blocked, so I have this to say about…

    No, you are not blocked. I guess you had not yet discovered that.

    If I agree not to embarrass them maybe I can be unblocked…

    It wasn’t about embarrassment. It was about you dumping lots of off-topic moderation complaints into a discussion thread. And if you had agreed to not do that, you would have been removed from moderation much earlier.

    If you want to respond to this, use the moderation thread. And apologies to others for my posting moderation notes here.

  8. Neil, to phoodoo:

    No, you are not blocked. I guess you had not yet discovered that.

    Christ, Neil. Why didn’t you announce it, so that phoodoo would know?

    You and Alan were the ones who screwed up, so it was your responsibility to fix the problem and announce that you had done so:

    a) You singled out phoodoo for censorship, even though the rules don’t permit you to do that.

    b) You offered to unblock him only if he would make a promise that isn’t required of anyone else.

    c) He wisely declined to make that promise.

    d) You finally backed down and fixed your screwup.

    e) Yet even when you finally got around to fixing it, you didn’t announce it. Were you ashamed to admit it?

    As a result of your actions, phoodoo spent more than seven weeks under censorship.

    What the hell is wrong with you two?

  9. colewd: The design argument is an argument from analogy and not from ignorance. It is not a god of the gaps fallacy

    O’RLY?

    colewd: Now we have no explanation inside our space-time for life and its diversity. If you add to that the problems with explaining the origin of matter and its incredible predictability an outside space-time solution seems logical.

    How fucking retarded can you be today, Billy?

  10. walto:
    You should have written your last post first. If you go back and read your OP …

    Walto, You can “kiss” (sic) my ass!

    You represent exactly the mindset I execrate in my OP

    You clearly lack the cerebral capacity to grasp more than simplistic binary juxtapositions

    You also clearly lack an attention span beyond that of a gold fish… otherwise you would have realized before posting that my earlier follow ups have already categorically contradictied your pathetic attempt at rebbuttal

  11. Adapa: Shipbuilders have for centuries.That’s why they don’t build flat rudderless unpowered boxes for ocean transport.

    So… you are a moron…ass expected..

  12. Neil Rickert:
    Moved a post to guano.

    You should refrain from removing comments from angry atheists who want to disappear from this world no matter what…If they have no hope, just like you, shouldn’t they be respected? You wouldn’t like anyone to tell you to change your mind about the final destination, would you?

  13. Neil Rickert:
    Moved a post to guano.

    Why, because it’s true?

    Is having a troll like J-Mac shitting over all of the threads with nothing more than stupidity and dishonesty that important to you? It’s not like I called him a liar, although I properly characterized his dishonest output, but since when has that been against the rules here? Just more making up the rules to protect egregious trolls again.

    And how many posts has J-Mac ever written that haven’t been claiming in some manner or other that a person hasn’t been posting in good faith? He can’t back that up, either, although apparently endless lies are what are supposed to be protected here. Are you really just trying to drive out everyone who contributes intelligence, in order to just leave completely dishonest and stupid people like J-Mac? WTF?

    So put this on Guano, too. This one does break the rules, stupid and pro-dishonesty as they are, although the first one didn’t. J-Mac’s lying ad hominems do, but you don’t care about the fact that a dishonest troll is shitting all over the place, just that someone calls him on his lies. I think that lies are the only thing that moderators care about protecting by now.

    Glen Davidson

  14. GlenDavidson: Why, because it’s true?

    Is having a troll like J-Mac shitting over all of the threads with nothing more than stupidity and dishonesty that important to you?It’s not like I called him a liar, although I properly characterized his dishonest output, but since when has that been against the rules here?Just more making up the rules to protect egregious trolls again.

    And how many posts has J-Mac ever written that haven’t been claiming in some manner or other that a person hasn’t been posting in good faith?He can’t back that up, either, although apparently endless lies are what are supposed to be protected here.Are you really just trying to drive out everyone who contributes intelligence, in order to just leave completely dishonest and stupid people like J-Mac?WTF?

    So put this on Guano, too.This one does break the rules, stupid and pro-dishonesty as they are, although the first one didn’t.J-Mac’s lying ad hominems do, but you don’t care about the fact that a dishonest troll is shitting all over the place, just that someone calls him on his lies.I think that lies are the only thing that moderators care about protecting by now.

    Glen Davidson

    I told you Neil… Glen beliefs are stronger than reality… which proves that the great majority of misdiagnosed delusional schizophrenics in this land should be on medications…

  15. DNA_Jock:
    Moved a post to guano, in fulfillment of my obligations.

    How did I break the rules of this blog?
    Make sure you provide details, not as you see them…
    So, you are pissed because I reminded you about the OP that has been sitting in the moderators box for few days now?
    Pity…NAD-juck

  16. J-Mac: I told you Neil… Glen beliefs are stronger than reality… which proves that the great majority of misdiagnosed delusional schizophrenics in this land should be on medications…

    See, you just get more lies from J-Mac with your idiotic “moderation.”

    Is anything ever going to be done to facilitate discussion and quell dishonest attacks here, or is this going to be a shithole dominated by some of the most dishonest people on the web?

    If you actually used the rules against J-Mac’s dishonest attacks this wouldn’t be a problem. But you’ll protect dishonest attacks like they were golden.

    Glen Davidson

  17. GlenDavidson: See, you just get more lies from J-Mac with your idiotic “moderation.”

    Is anything ever going to be done to facilitate discussion and quell dishonest attacks here, or is this going to be a shithole dominated by some of the most dishonest people on the web?

    If you actually used the rules against J-Macs dishonest attacks this wouldn’t be a problem.But you’ll protect dishonest attacks like they were golden.

    Glen Davidson

    Glen,
    Why don’t you provide the empirical evidence for your beliefs?
    You can preform any experiment you want and If it is successful; you provide empirical evidence for your beliefs, I will refund your money.
    No excuses. Let’s see how much faith you have in your beliefs. You have faith, don’t you?
    How about mutagenesis experiments to start us with?
    Are you familiar with the law of recurrent variation, Glen?
    It is the elementary textbook for starters…
    Are you ready, Glen?

  18. J-Mac: Glen,
    Why don’t you provide the empirical evidence for your beliefs?

    I do, lying retard.

    So shut the fuck up.

    Or, actually, why don’t you take over the forum by lying, attacking, and being the hideous, vile piece of shit that you are and that the moderators like.

    Your lies are protected.

    Attempts to return to honest discussion are punished.

    And you can be the lying sack of shit that you have always been. J-Mac’s place for shitting on everyone is what this worthless forum is becoming.

    Glen Davidson

  19. Neil Rickert:
    Moved several more to guano.

    Yeah, why don’t you actually get ahead of the shitstorms that J-Mac stirs? He’s been doing nothing but shit-stirring, attacking the person (supposedly against the rules, yet he gets away with it almost every time), and making dishonest charges against those better than him (which is almost everyone).

    Oh, but let him be an evil rule-breaker, then move a bunch of posts to Guano because you haven’t given a damn about the rules, like, ever.

    Is the problem that someone won’t put up with lying trolling forever? The rules apparently don’t matter, never have when it comes to J-Mac.

    Not that I care about the posts going to Guano. The real point is that I shouldn’t have to write them simply because the moderators don’t care about the rules, or dishonest, unwarranted attacks on the individual.

    Glen Davidson

  20. I know I’m supposed to give people the benefit of the doubt, but here I just have to say it. Nonlin is amazingly and unambiguously stupid. So seriously stupid that next time I feel like really insulting someone I will call them “nonlins.”

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