Guano (3)

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Post n° 56711

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  1. stcordova: It appears the “phyogenetic” trees, the hierarchical structures, when put through computational analysis may predict protein interactions and possible folds and structures and post translational modification targets.

    And yet you go on to suggest post translational modification targets are random and not shared between species. Which is an outright contradiction.

    You always were a terrible philosopher. A great propagandist for an uninformed audience as you sure know how to impress with technical jargon and anecdotes about how prestigious a venue is, or how impressed someone was. But critical thinking, not so much.

    It’s a recurrent phenomenon among religious extremists. Reason as taken the backseat and is considered at best secondary to blind faith. I suppose that shouldn’t be suprising when it has scriptural support:

  2. J-Mac: After all even Graur is taking it back

    From the very paper this J-Tard shit-for-brains guy quoted

    From table 1, we see that even for unrealistically low estimates of deleterious mutation rates, the fraction of the genome that can be functional cannot exceed 25%. If the fraction of deleterious mutations out of all mutations in functional regions is even slightly >4%, then the fraction of the genome that can be functional becomes much lower. Realistically, the functional fraction of the genome cannot exceed 10–15%. These results agree with empirical estimates in the literature on the fraction of the human genome that is evolutionarily constrained (Rands et al. 2014).

    LMFAO

  3. Gregory: I’ve done more research on this topic than you’ll ever do. If you don’t wish to respect that, it’s on you & makes no difference to me.

    I am sure you have done more research on this topic than I ever will. Which makes your performance all the more puzzling.
    For example, I was wondering why your plots for “development” and “design” showed double-dips; then I realized that you had switched from plotting Worldwide interest to plotting interest in the USA. That’s an odd choice for someone who loves to berate others for their US-centric thinking.
    No matter: whichever geography you pick, “evonomics” and “memetics” still thrash “human extension”…

    [snip]
    A little prayer might do you some good DNA_Jock, taking yourself out of the centre of your universe for a change & focussing on what is more important in life. Might also lead you to less regular attacks on me simply for being an Abrahamic theist as a bonus, who knows. ; )

    I do not attack you simply because you are an Abrahamic theist. Most of my good friends are. I do not attack you simply because you are an sociologist, either. I push back because you seem to be a bad sociologist.

  4. fifthmonarchyman,

    I really feel for you. You don’t realize that religious bullshit has turned you into a horrible person. It’s probably not your fault though, that’s what indoctrination does to people.

  5. Corneel: Also, how do you suppose that polar bears acquired black skin? It could not have been achieved by degrading the function of proteins involved in pigmentation, like what happened for their fur, right?

    Your are joking, right??? Or you have been drinking what OMagain has been drinking? 🤔

  6. dazz: Mung must be really proud that his DI donations go to these dishonest pieces of shit.

    Mung donates to the DI? HAahahaha

  7. newton: How about the subject of moderation, ok to go on and on?

    Moderation? What moderation?

    Literally ONE post before mine….

    dazz
    Ignored says:
    February 15, 2019 at 12:44 am
    fifthmonarchyman,

    I really feel for you. You don’t realize that religious bullshit has turned you into a horrible person. It’s probably not your fault though, that’s what indoctrination does to people.

  8. J-Mac: BTW: Evolutionary prediction please! Will marijuana legal use contribute to evolution or will Darwin Devolve?

    Your ignorance is showing.

  9. Mung:
    Moved a comment to Guano.

    Can you look at some more?! The “meth drinker” is polluting OPs…
    This is close to cyber bullying, which is illegal in some civilized societies…
    My kids think he has run out of mental institution..He definitely needs help!🤗

  10. J-Mac: Can you look at some more?! The “meth drinker” is polluting OPs…
    This is close to cyber bullying, which is illegal in some civilized societies…
    My kids think he has run out of mental institution..He definitely needs help!🤗

    Can you please bring this kind of thing up in the Moderation forum? Thanks.

  11. J-Mac: Behe simply interpreted the data one way…The Cell authors interpreted it another way… But who is right? Are they both wrong?

    No, Behe deliberately cut & pasted half the table, leaving out the data that DISPROVED his claim that ALL mutations to ApoB were damaging.

    This is clear as day, but of course you’re so deluded that you just can’t see it. Pathetic

  12. Alan Fox: *Question for the Grammar Police. Is a phrase ending in an ellipsis a sentence?

    Whom should I contact regarding an admin who pollutes OPs with comments that belong to Moderation, Sandbox or even Guano parts of TSZ?
    Should I ask Mung to move your comments where they belong? Or you have at least a bit of pride left and you are going to do it yourself?

  13. J-Mac,

    I’ve addressed your claims in your OP. If any of my comments break TSZ rules, feel free to point that out in the Moderation Issues thread.

  14. Alan Fox:
    J-Mac,

    I’ve addressed your claims in your OP.If any of my comments break TSZ rules, feel free to point that out in the Moderation Issues thread.

    Can you show me where in the OP I was referring to the grammar issues?
    Unless the grammar was referring to the synthetic dimensions of DNA, your comments broke the rules…as you said it yourself…
    So, you will move your own comments where they belong, rightly so…

  15. dazz:
    I bet J-Tard is a morbidly obese burger gulping cholesterol denialist.

    Oh, okapi-retard?! Is it 5 o’clock yet?

  16. dazz:
    I bet J-Tard is a morbidly obese burger gulping cholesterol denialist.

    “i’m almost positive it is wrong.”- Dazz-loco-sciencence Inc. 😉

  17. dazz:
    I bet J-Tard is a morbidly obese burger gulping cholesterol denialist.

    “i’m almost positive it is wrong.”- Dazz-loco-sciencence Inc. 😉

    PeterP: glycogen in the raw meat they ate.

    Are you a big drinker PeterP?

  18. J-Mac: “i’m almost positive it is wrong.”- Dazz-loco-sciencence Inc.

    Are you a big drinker PeterP?

    teetotaler for the most part. Acetaldehyde plays havoc with my body.

    Why do you ask and why are you trying to change the subject?

  19. PeterP: Jmac made the above claim(s) about me in the Moderation thread.

    Here I invite him to back up his claims if he thinks he is correct alleging that I ’embarrassed myself with any claims of ‘trans fats’.

    Never mentioned ‘trans fats’ in any comments on your notoriously misinformed OP. Feel free to quote the comments that you think I should find embarrassing.Won’t hold my breath waiting for you to do so.

    Let’s see if jmac has the courage of his convictions to back up his allegations or rather, as I suspect, we will see another example of unsubstantiated bluster of his part.Balls in your court, jmac, let’s see what you have!

    Boy! You don’t even know how to Google trans fats vs cis fats? Or, perhaps you didn’t know there was a difference…😉 I don’t know what to tell you…
    It’s not rocket science or quantum mechanics… 🤗

  20. Neil Rickert:
    Swamidass has asked that we post something about an upcoming debate.

    Here’s the link to the PS announcement.It’s a debate between McClatchie (an ID proponent) and Swamidass (an evolutionist), this afternoon 3pm Eastern time, March 16.

    Does anybody even care?
    Behe calls Swamidass a lesser known reviewer…
    I call him an atheist pretending to be a Christian-a wolf in sheep’s clothing…
    Most fair minded people see Swamidass as an opportunist who is trying to seize the opportunity to become more known by misrepresenting Behe, Gauger, Axe and DI…

    Why would anyone care what he says?

  21. DNA_Jock:
    swamidass is a member here, J-Mac.

    Because moderators like you refuse to ban him for breaking the rules and possibly the law because he apologized?
    I’m sorry… can you restore my publishing rights now???

  22. phoodoo: So if we drop enough paint, and pick the best ones each time, maybe eventually it will become conscious.

    Either that, or complexity doesn’t equate to sophistication.

    That you think that qualifies as “heritable traits, reproduction, and a competition for resources.” highlights why science is not for you.

  23. phoodoo,

    That you’re unimpressed that you can create “life” within “life” or create a universal constructor within it shows the limits of your curiosity and / or intellect.

  24. Richardthughes,

    Richardthetweaker is back! Safe from Mung! Alan is in his glory! Brothers in arms reunited at last.

    That you are impressed with blinking lights, is a surprise to no one.

    That you turned on your computer yourself would be a surprise to everyone.

    # Help Richardthetweaker push the button.

  25. phoodoo,

    Anyone who things that the significance of this is simply “blinking lights” probably should have less intellectual hobbies.

  26. stcordova:
    Entropy,

    I hope you waste hours of your life reading what I write and composing comments I’ll never read.

    Thank you TSZ for the ignore button!Bwahaha!

    Why are you wasting time on an angry bird?
    He lost “the navigation abilities” due to quantum decoherence…and all he has left now is incoherence…😉
    This is what uncontrolled anger does…

  27. fifthmonarchyman: Given the moderation situation It’s probably best for me not to get into that sort of detailed conversation here anyway

    There isn’t a moderation situation, except in the imagination of a very few people here. So go ahead and discuss anyway.

  28. Neil Rickert: There isn’t a moderation situation, except in the imagination of a very few people here.

    Of course you say that, you share the prevailing ethos

    But it looks very different for the folks on the outs of the power structure here.

    peace

  29. Neil:

    There isn’t a moderation situation, except in the imagination of a very few people here.

    Right. There was never a moderator named Mung. Mung wasn’t appointed by Lizzie. Mung wasn’t removed by Alan. And Alan didn’t belatedly try to fix things by restoring Mung as moderator, only to be overridden by you and Jock.

    And the whole thing didn’t create yet another moderation kerfuffle.

    We just imagined it.

  30. Moved some comments to guano. Moderation complaints should be made in the appropriate thread.

    But interestingly, you didn’t provide a link. Here’s one, so that readers can take a look for themselves.

  31. Alan,

    Moved some comments to guano. Moderation complaints should be made in the appropriate thread.

    This comment contains no moderation complaints. I am simply urging readers to take a look at something interesting.

  32. DNA_Jock,

    Yeah. I’m just kidding about the puppets. You did a great job with the aluGENEalu thing. Salvador, though, needs to see that recombining halfway produces the same result as recombining one-third-of-the-way, as recombining precisely-at-the-“boundary.” It’s obvious, but Salvador doesn’t have the brains to visualize it in his mind. I suspect that if we showed half, one-third, complete, Salvador would still miss that the same goes for one-quarter, two-thirds, etc.

    Note that he adds stuff to try and make it harder on himself to understand. Oh! How about introns! But did he understand what you explained? Nah. That doesn’t register anyway. Or maybe it registers, thus the intron goal-post-moving/red-herring, and that’s enough for him to pretend that you didn’t explain anything.

    Weird this guy. Very weird.

  33. RodW: but at least hes grappling with the details of evolution

    No, he’s not. He’s ignoring all of it, he’s misusing concepts and has no idea what he’s talking about. I suspect that he didn’t even understand how Alu elements multiply either, he just quoted the words he found making sure first that they did not contain the words “homologous recombination.” Salvador quotes things without understanding them first. Salvador “answers” things without understanding them first.

    Salvador is an absolutely incompetent idiot. I’m hard on him because, with all his incompetence in full display, he has the gall to insult those who all-too-patiently try and explain things to him.

  34. Entropy: But that’s life. Now just grow up. Act your age. You’re too old to continue displaying such desperate childish denial.

  35. Entropy: I didn’t prove your point, but you made mine, since, just as I said, you have no idea what you’re talking about, yet you arrogantly make ignorant claim after ignorant claim to try and compensate. Sorry, it doesn’t work that way. When caught in your ignorance, you should stop making yet more ignorant claims and start making an effort to learn and understand instead. Have some self-respect Salvador.

    If your imaginary friend was real he would be ashamed of your way to defend your “faith.

  36. Entropy: Salvador quotes things without understanding them first. Salvador “answers” things without understanding them first.

    Salvador is an absolutely incompetent idiot. I’m hard on him because, with all his incompetence in full display, he has the gall to insult those who all-too-patiently try and explain things to him.

  37. DNA_Jock: I think you use words that you don’t understand, hoping that nobody will notice.

    You are an idiot.

    I think you use words that you don’t understand, hoping that nobody will notice. You’re astoundingly obtuse. What an idiot.

    If you didn’t lack such basic knowledge, then you would have to be dishonest to the point of not caring risking ridicule, as long as your intended audience, evolutionists as ignorant as yourself, could not understand the examples either. I’m not kidding at all. You need mental help.

    You are an idiot.

  38. Entropy: How you don’t know should be the proper question. Why don’t you know Bill? What have you missed?

    The proper question. Its an interesting point, let’s break it down to its constitute parts. First you said “the” as opposed to “a”. As if only one question could be the proper one. Is that so, what is this based on? And when you say “proper” did you mean genuine? Or perhaps you meant the decent question? The virtuous question? But what really is virtuous to a man who does not believe in absolute virtue? So its unlikely you meant that. It could be that you meant punctilious, but that seems rather unlikely, given that you clearly suffer from some levels of retardation, and reading comprehension difficulties, so you wouldn’t even know what that meant, given your putrefied brain.

    And then question. Again, its also unlikely that you even know what a question is, you syphilitic wart you.

    So, in totem, when you discuss the proper question, we have to assume that what you really wish to say is, “Entropy is an infected douche-bag, of zero intellectual capacity, a steaming pile of rancid weasel shit, dripping through a sieve of loutish, flaccid fatty skin.” And who would disagree with that?

    Enough content Jock? Alan?

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