Moderation Issues (3)

Please use this thread for alerting admins to moderation issues and for discussion or complaints arising from particular decisions.

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  1. keithskeiths

    Alan,

    Indeed it did. It questioned a moderation decision.

    No, it didn’t. The “offending” adverb had been redacted, and all that was left was a link to some guanoed comments.

    Neil had no basis for moving the comment, as it didn’t violate any rules. Patrick is right not to endorse Neil’s action, and you are wrong — again.

  2. Alan FoxAlan Fox Post author

    keiths,

    It’s the substitution of the word with “redacted” that is a raised digit. The ball went over the line.

  3. keithskeiths

    Alan,

    But you allege I gain some personal benefit. What would that be?

    I told you already:

    The benefit of being able to use your moderator privileges against others out of spite, with no regard for principle or for the best interests of TSZ.

    Nothing illustrates that better than this:

    keiths:

    What is your justification for moving that comment to Guano? Be specific.

    Alan:

    Because I can, Keiths.

    You’re not fit to be a moderator.

  4. Alan FoxAlan Fox Post author

    keiths: I told you already:

    The benefit of being able to use your moderator privileges against others out of spite, with no regard for principle or for the best interests of TSZ.

    You have an odd concept of spite! Moving (let’s be clear, you are only complaining about your own comments that break site rules) comments to guano that break the site rules is “spiteful” and being spiteful is beneficial? There’s no sense in that.

  5. PatrickPatrick

    keiths:
    Alan,

    . . .

    You’re not fit to be a moderator.

    Alan’s not fit to be a moderator. Neil isn’t fit to be a moderator. I’m not fit to be a moderator. That leaves johnnyb and things aren’t looking good for him.

    Perhaps no one is fit to be a moderator. I find that proposition compelling.

  6. keithskeiths

    Patrick,

    You’re far more fit than Alan.

    But TSZ sans moderation is indeed a compelling proposition.

  7. Neil Rickert

    keiths: The “offending” adverb had been redacted, and all that was left was a link to some guanoed comments.

    Give it a break.

    There was no offending adverb. The post itself was offending because it was a comment on moderation that was not in the moderation topic.

    Additionally, the post itself was pointless. I had already provided a link to the guanoed comment.

  8. keithskeiths

    The entire kerfuffle once again proves the point that Patrick and I have been making: Moderation makes TSZ worse. That’s especially true when it’s administered by abusive dipshits like Alan and Neil who lack maturity and self-control.

    Patrick would like to see a TSZ in which moderators no longer have the power to guano comments. After all, moderators can’t abuse a power that they don’t have.

    Alan and Neil are clinging to that power. After all, they can’t abuse a power that they don’t have.

    The difference in attitudes is striking.

  9. Neil Rickert

    keiths: The entire kerfuffle once again proves the point that Patrick and I have been making: Moderation makes TSZ worse.

    Start your own site. You can moderate it, or not moderate, however you see fit.

    You can even make an announcement here at TSZ. People who prefer your style of moderation can move to your new site.

    And, hey, if everybody moves then I can retire from moderation duties.

  10. keithskeiths

    You’re clinging to power, Neil.

    As for starting my own site, why would I do that? It makes far more sense to improve TSZ, by eliminating Guano or by implementing my “moderation as a subscription service” idea, than it does to start from scratch.

    But that would mean less power for you, and that’s just not acceptable, is it?

  11. keithskeiths

    Mung,

    Why not take a 30-day break from TSZ? Then you won’t have to read anything I write.

  12. waltowalto

    Mods, when I tried to edit the lengthy comment I just posted, (I just want to add italics in one place), I got a message that it could not be edited because it has been marked as spam. I took that personally!

    And now the whole comment is gone! Can you put it back, please? It took a long time to write!

  13. Robert Byers

    I have a thread i think, i hope, should be of interest in science/religion conflicts.
    hopefully more interest then the others.
    i sent it in and hope the powers notice so as to decide if allowable.
    thanks.

  14. keithskeiths

    A poem by Robert Byers:

    I have a thread
    i think,
    i hope,
    should be of interest
    in science/religion conflicts.

    hopefully more interest then the others.
    i sent it in
    and hope the powers notice
    so as to
    decide if allowable.

  15. keithskeiths

    The second stanza is kind of messed up metrically, but the echoes of Martin Luther King in the first stanza are brilliant.

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