Noyau (2)

…the noyau, an animal society held together by mutual animosity rather than co-operation

Robert Ardrey, The Territorial Imperative.

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  1. Alan FoxAlan Fox Post author

    keiths:
    Alan,

    The fact that you woke up with a hard-on is no reason for me to run around collecting evidence for you.

    Why not take a cold shower, go back to bed, and give the day a new start?

    This is a typical example.

  2. keithskeiths

    Alan:

    Sure. On the other hand, if you intend to persuade someone on a point of disagreement, mocking them is likely to prove counter-productive. This has long been my issue with Keiths’ posting style.

    Alan,

    If I were looking for advice on persuasion, I’d ask someone who was good at it.

    If you genuinely wanted to make TSZ a better place, you’d address your own problems — the immaturity, the lying, the refusal to admit mistakes, the abuse of moderator privileges — instead of chastising others for mockery, which when done properly is an entirely appropriate way of criticizing others’ views and highlighting their flaws.

  3. waltowalto

    Tom English: Tom English: the greatest defect of keiths-bot

    walto: Hunh. I’ve got that down at five or six.
    I was referring to its greatest defect in simulating a human, not the greatest defect of the simulated human.

    Aha. I see. I missed that distinction.

  4. waltowalto

    Derek Walcott, RIP

    LOVE AFTER LOVE

    The time will come
    when, with elation
    you will greet yourself arriving
    at your own door, in your own mirror
    and each will smile at the other’s welcome,

    and say, sit here. Eat.
    You will love again the stranger who was your self.
    Give wine. Give bread. Give back your heart
    to itself, to the stranger who has loved you

    all your life, whom you ignored
    for another, who knows you by heart.
    Take down the love letters from the bookshelf,

    the photographs, the desperate notes,
    peel your own image from the mirror.
    Sit. Feast on your life.

  5. MungMung

    Alan Fox: On the other hand, if you intend to persuade someone on a point of disagreement, mocking them is likely to prove counter-productive.

    It’s a sure sign of a closed mind.

  6. PatrickPatrick

    Mung:

    Alan Fox: On the other hand, if you intend to persuade someone on a point of disagreement, mocking them is likely to prove counter-productive.

    It’s a sure sign of a closed mind.

    It can also be a response to a closed mind. Some people have earned nothing more than mockery. While it’s not going to change minds, it’s a way of pointing out that reason doesn’t work with some people.

    Mockery can be beneficial. Most people don’t like to be mocked, so they’ll avoid behaviors that lead to that response. Your good self excepted, of course.

  7. keithskeiths

    This is, um, interesting:

    Dean_from_Ohio April 15, 2017 at 9:30 pm

    For whatever reason, God has brought these atheists here. For some reason, they feel at home here, like the northerner who hangs out at the diner in Charlotte despite the abuse he gets from the good ol boys. And every time he shows up, they give him a plate of grits, chitterlings, collard greens and cornbread; they’ve got plenty. He never eats it, because that would be giving in. But he’s still hungry, and sometimes he slips some cornbread in his leather jacket pocket when no one’s looking. But that’s not really what he’s most hungry for. That, genuine conversation and a look straight in his eye, is why he comes, because it somehow feels like home. He rides away, humming a tune by Della Reese that was playing on the jukebox. He’ll be back tomorrow. And the good ol boys will see him coming and will say, “Hey, watch this!”

  8. MungMung

    wtf is wrong with Rumraket?

    The best part is that even the other theists here think he’s pretty much a nutcase.

    Why be such a denigrating and insulting ass Rumraket? This site is already biased enough against theists. You don’t speak for me.

  9. RobinRobin

    Checking in. Flip through the recent threads and can’t tell if I actually left for a bit. Anything new come up? Anything interesting? Anything not question begging and confirmation bias?

    *Sigh*…

  10. PatrickPatrick

    Robin:
    Checking in. Flip through the recent threads and can’t tell if I actually left for a bit. Anything new come up? Anything interesting? Anything not question begging and confirmation bias?

    *Sigh*…

    I tried to bond with Mung. I was rejected.

  11. GlenDavidson

    Robin:
    Checking in. Flip through the recent threads and can’t tell if I actually left for a bit. Anything new come up? Anything interesting? Anything not question begging and confirmation bias?

    *Sigh*…

    Someone’s mind changed.

    In our dreams, anyway…

    Glen Davidson

  12. Allan Miller

    2b fair, colewd appeared to have some kind of epiphany regarding evidence of common descent. So now it’s on to ‘mechanism’.

  13. RobinRobin

    GlenDavidson: Someone’s mind changed.

    In our dreams, anyway…

    Glen Davidson

    Yeah well…I wasn’t expecting that. I was hoping (though not expecting) that perhaps a few conversations would be relying more on rational arguments, but that was clearly foolishness on my part.

  14. RobinRobin

    Allan Miller:
    2b fair, colewd appeared to have some kind of epiphany regarding evidence of common descent. So now it’s on to ‘mechanism’.

    Must have missed that. So now it’s God-of-the-Common-Descent I take it?

  15. Kantian NaturalistKantian Naturalist

    Robin: Yeah well…I wasn’t expecting that. I was hoping (though not expecting) that perhaps a few conversations would be relying more on rational arguments, but that was clearly foolishness on my part.

    If you’re looking for that, you’re on the wrong Internet.

  16. Allan Miller

    Robin,

    Pretty much. “Does one have evidence that it could happen non-interventionally” sort of thing. God as genetic engineer.

  17. OMagain

    stcordova: Whether or not my characterization of Behe is accurate, let’s just consider an evolutionary search for a password.

    Please, just let the adults talk.

  18. MungMung

    Almost impossible to keep up with and respond to all the bullshit claims that the atheists/materialists/evolutionists make here at TSZ.

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