Sandbox (3)

Sometimes very active discussions about peripheral issues overwhelm a thread, so this is a permanent home for those conversations.

This is also a continuation of previous Sandbox threads (1) and (2) that have fallen victim to the dreaded page bug.

679 thoughts on “Sandbox (3)”

  1. PatrickPatrick

    Tom English:
    It sucks, but it works: put the \LaTeX between backquotes, to suppress MarkDown translation.

    That’s weird. The Markdown plugin has been disabled for a while. Perhaps one of the others also supports some variant. I’ll have a look this weekend.

  2. Alan FoxAlan Fox Post author

    Patrick: That’s weird.The Markdown plugin has been disabled for a while.Perhaps one of the others also supports some variant.I’ll have a look this weekend.

    Just checked and it wasn’t. That may have been me. I’m not sure if anyone else uses it (I have been using asterisks for italics and emphasis because it’s quick but I can certainly manage without. I’ve disabled it again. Not sure if anyone is going to be inconvenienced. If anyone is, here is the place to say so.

  3. Tom EnglishTom English

    [Alan and Patrick, I’m not griping. Just testing.]

    Test underscores in blockquote without backquote escape:

    The change in functional uncertainty from the null state
    is, therefore,

        \[\Delta H(X_\emptyset(t_i), X_f(t_j)) = \log (W) - H(X_f(t_i)). \qquad (5)\]

    Now with backquote outside double-dollar:

    The change in functional uncertainty from the null state
    is, therefore, `

        \[\Delta H(X_\emptyset(t_i), X_f(t_j)) = \log (W) - H(X_f(t_i)). \qquad (5)\]

    `

    Now with backquote inside double-dollar:

    The change in functional uncertainty from the null state
    is, therefore,

        \[`\Delta H(X_\emptyset(t_i), X_f(t_j)) = \log (W) - H(X_f(t_i)). \qquad (5)`\]

    (I think there’s no markup processing within blockquote.)

  4. Tom EnglishTom English

    [latex] and [/latex]

    [I’m trying to enter {latex} and {/latex} with square brackets instead of curly brackets. I’ve entered unicode 005b and 005d for the brackets.]

  5. Alan FoxAlan Fox Post author

    Tom English,

    @ Tom and anyone else who wishes to use \LaTeX

    It is enabled site-wide. Just enclose in dollar signs. No need for {latexpage} (in square brackets)

    ETA interesting! Editing loses backslash.

  6. AhmedKiaan

    “This idea of humans finding meaning in virtual reality games is actually not a new idea. It’s a very old idea. We have been finding meaning in virtual reality games for thousands of years. We’ve just called it religion until now.

    You can think about religion simply as a virtual reality game. You invent rules that don’t really exist, but you believe these rules and for your entire life, you try to follow the rules. If you’re Christian, then if you do this, you get points. If you sin, you lose points. If by the time you finish the game when you’re dead, you gained enough points, you get up to the next level. You go to heaven.

    People have been playing this virtual reality game for thousands of years and it made them relatively content and happy with their lives. In the 21st century, we’ll just have the technology to create far more persuasive virtual reality games than the ones that we’ve been playing for the past thousands of years. We’ll have the technology to actually create heavens and hells, not in our minds, but using bits and using direct brain-computer interfaces.”

    http://www.vox.com/2017/3/27/14780114/yuval-harari-ai-vr-consciousness-sapiens-homo-deus-podcast

  7. stcordova

    Jordan Peterson, best modern day philosopher I’ve ever heard. He’s classified as a psychologist, but his philosophy is first rate. He had an excellent insight from Pascal in the middle of the lecture that sort of demolishes the rationalists and enlightenment crowd, imho.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_7hCPYgXEk

  8. waltowalto

    stcordova:
    Jordan Peterson, best modern day philosopher I’ve ever heard.He’s classified as a psychologist, but his philosophy is first rate.He had an excellent insight from Pascal in the middle of the lecture that sort of demolishes the rationalists and enlightenment crowd, imho.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_7hCPYgXEk

    He’s not a philosopher at all.

  9. waltowalto

    AhmedKiaan:
    “This idea of humans finding meaning in virtual reality games is actually not a new idea. It’s a very old idea. We have been finding meaning in virtual reality games for thousands of years. We’ve just called it religion until now.

    You can think about religion simply as a virtual reality game. You invent rules that don’t really exist, but you believe these rules and for your entire life, you try to follow the rules. If you’re Christian, then if you do this, you get points. If you sin, you lose points. If by the time you finish the game when you’re dead, you gained enough points, you get up to the next level. You go to heaven.

    People have been playing this virtual reality game for thousands of years and it made them relatively content and happy with their lives. In the 21st century, we’ll just have the technology to create far more persuasive virtual reality games than the ones that we’ve been playing for the past thousands of years. We’ll have the technology to actually create heavens and hells, not in our minds, but using bits and using direct brain-computer interfaces.”

    http://www.vox.com/2017/3/27/14780114/yuval-harari-ai-vr-consciousness-sapiens-homo-deus-podcast

    This (excellent) post reminded me of Hesse’s novel The Glass Bead Game.

  10. Allan Miller

    stcordova,

    Left wing radicals behaving like thugs:

    Therefore? You’ll be posting a picture of someone with a beard waving a rifle next and tarring all bearded people with the same brush.

  11. stcordova

    walto:

    He’s not a philosopher at all.

    What makes one a philosopher? Isn’t psychology the philosophy of man and science the philosophy of nature?

  12. stcordova

    stcordova:
    One of my favorite Atheist Feminists!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvrxQ4M3EOo

    You might like Christina Hoff Sommers, the Factual Feminist, as well.

    Thanks Patrick. Do you like her?

    I like her and Milo Yianopolous, my favorite Gay Guy. 🙂 She appeared with Yianopolous and Crowder here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcp36n2cDg

    My favorite Atheist Creationist hater is Phil Mason (aka Thurnderf00t) started one of his famous videos with a clip taken by a Briebart correspondent K. Dillon at the Sommers/Yianopolous/Crowder talk who filmed the girl called “TrigglyPuff” (yikes!):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCB6osB5SYU

    Thunderf00t is probably my favorite anti-Creationist. I hope I can get his autograph one day.

  13. PatrickPatrick

    stcordova: Thanks Patrick. Do you like her?

    Yes, despite some minor political differences. I particularly like her recommendation “Want to close the wage gap? Step one: Change your major from feminist dance therapy to electrical engineering.”

    I like her and Milo Yianopolous, my favorite Gay Guy.

    Milo was interesting entertainment, but seems to have gone outside the lines of acceptable behavior. I’m curious to hear his defense when he inevitably returns.

    Thunderf00t is probably my favorite anti-Creationist.I hope I can get his autograph one day.

    I disagree with Thunderf00t on almost every political topic, but I’ll buy him a beer anytime because of his exposure of PZ “The Toxic Atheist” Myers and the grossly misnamed Freethought Blogs.

  14. PatrickPatrick

    Richardthughes:

    I’m always put off when Egos collide. Harris / Dennett would be another example.

    If you’re referring to Thunderf00t and Myers, neither rate comparison to Harris or Dennett.

    In that case it wasn’t just egos, it was Myers being a demonstrated liar and hypocrite. I can provide links to original material if you like.

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