Sometimes very active discussions about peripheral issues overwhelm a thread, so this is a permanent home for those conversations.
I’ve opened a new “Sandbox” thread as a post as the new “ignore commenter” plug-in only works on threads started as posts.
Sober reflection from Francis Collins.
Here
Hat-tip pandasthumb.org
PS I apologize if there’s no way for other commenters to read Collin’s essay without paying at least $4. I managed to read it once using a VPN but now NYT wants me to pay for a subscription. No offence to NYT but there’s not enough content that interests me to warrant it.
It looks like Japan, is going to unleash the new “vaccine” that was a vaccine in the first place, that is apparently self-amplifying…
I have lost track of nonsense with mRNA s…t. I’m pretty convinced the convict-19 whatever was s..t. So there is no way self- amplifying s…t will work.
What I would like to see is DNA_jock, Alan Fox and others to take pictures and post them here when they succumb to the real problem this time…
Be well!
J-Mac,
OMG! That’s right!
You’ve been reading the People’s Voice again, haven’t you?
ROFLMAO
It’s not self-amplifying, silly: some vaccines are self-assembling. We have actually covered this on TSZ.
DNA_Jock,
You don’t think people who promoted the so-called mRNA vaccines belong in jail? You claim you injected yourself with this s..t.I It doesn’t matter to me if this is true or not. Either way, as a scientist, or other, you are dead. You will have to live with this burden of the results of your ignorance for the rest of your life, which I wish you to be as long as possible…
I would like to have DNA_jock banned from this forum for spreading misinformation.
He has no evidence that his side effects from mRNA “vaccine” had any positive effect. Unless he provides evidence, he should be banned. Period. He works for the big pharmaceutical companies and unless he denies what he had already admitted, it is easy
Would you, indeed? That is not going to happen. Plus you make a wild and unsupported claim. Support your claim that evidence supplied by DNA_Jock is “misinformation” or stop making it.
This statement makes as much sense as Donald Trump does. In a very few cases, adverse side effects have been noted, but for the vast majority of people (including me, who has received four doses of anti-Covid vaccines, and, subsequently a very mild case of Covid) the positive benefit of being immune to infection far outweighs the day or so of a sore arm.
Just got the latest vaccine. Things went well, and I’m glad I’ve added some covid protection to my normal set of behavioral precautions.
aleta,
You induced me to look again at Edward Jenner’s life and career. Fascinating!
I’d like to know how many, everyone, who comment here who has been more than happy to receive the mRNA vaccine .
Just say yes or no
Alan Fox,
You must believe “the science”… until your family member is not as fortunate as we unvaxxed are … Family friend woke up but his 27 year old son didn’t
Yes.
Multiple times.
Don’t forget to line up for booster number …What is it in your country?
If I were to receive a vaccine, I’d hope I wouldn’t have to take it again… Do you know what I mean? What kind of a vaccine is it, if you have to get it every 3-4 moths like DNA-JOCK DID? He sold out… so who gives a s..t?
Some vaccines only need to be taken once, or infrequently. Others regularly, like the flu or at this time covid. It depends on the condition being treated. I’m pretty familiar with quite a bit about covid medically and epidemiologically, and about the vaccine, and I feel that especially at my age and with some conditions I have the cost/benefit ratio weighs in heavily on staying up-to-date with my vaccines.
But why do you give a shit about what I do?
I watched the Joe Rogan interview with Trump so you don’t have to. It’s all lies. It’s interesting only if you are interested in studying mentally off-base people.
I don’t know Joe Rogan that well so it was difficult for me to decide at first if he is so very nice and accommodating that he used outright lies to get Trump to open up and feel safe and comfortable (which worked, by the way) or whether he actually believes those lies that he used to get Trump to open up.
For example, at a relatively early point Rogan said that he likes JD Vance for vice president and that he thought that Vance’s answer to the election theft question in the VP debate, which Vance countered with the question whether Harris censored people on social media, was a good one. I did not know what to make of it. Is Rogan being nice or deluded?
Luckily this was put to the test towards the end when Rogan asked Trump to explain his election theft allegations. Rogan appeared genuinely concerned/interested when asking this. Trump confirmed his opinion that “the election was rigged, robbed and stolen” and when Rogan pressed him for evidence, Trump only stated a few general vague (and false) points about this, such as “they didn’t get the legislative approval for many things in many cases” (that’s the whole sentence, so that Rogan had to ask to specify “What things?”) and “they wouldn’t give access in certain areas to ballots”. Rogan then asked “Are you gonna present this ever?” to which Trump changed the topic to the Hunter laptop and Russia hoax and Rogan went along with the misdirection drawing conclusions in favour of Trump, leading me to conclude that he really believes those lies. When Trump misdirects from the election theft evidence topic, Rogan is satisfied like any unthinking MAGA cultist.
Erik,
With just over a week to go, and a sizeable percentage of the electorate already having voted, I guess crossing fingers is as good a strategy as any
I often wonder if there is an expert on this forum WHO can explain how the mRNA “vaccines” were supposed to work and how they “worked” in reality…
I think we have an expert on this site who can use fraudulent stats to prove his point so that he wouldn’t have take any responsibility for jabbing himself with the fraudulent vaccine..
Thoughts?
See here for some expert explanation: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/mrnavaccines/