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Thanks. Hope you are well. It’s kind of scary here in the USA with the Wuhan virus invading us.
Alan Fox,
You apparently have time to post. Maybe you can attend to the moderation thread.
Then fucking do it!
Maybe the Orange infants son-in-law is involved.
Jew-germ?
Alrighty, I won’t call it the Wuhan virus. How about:
[trade mark]
I think its hilarious. the same crowd who brought us global warming and evolution and all recent wars are doing it again. Don’t obey lockdown unless they are watching. This is a minor flu , not a epidemic, and will pass without much damage relative to other flues and population. There is only a potential minor epidemic that would bother the weker, older/sick, people. Its always been a humbug about its easy catchyness. Having millions of people, with no virus, avoiding millions of others with no virus is stupid. In fact I understand China, as far as they are trustworthy and competent, already are saying the virus is dying out there very quickly. It was poor sampling to look at cruise ships or vaction areas in europe. It shows how people don’t think things through and believe everything they are told in a establishment. It was always a issue of rates. Rate of increase relative to pop. Its sad for those who died/suffered however even the forgotten hongh kong flu in the 60’s was more of a problem.
Origin thinkers should be smarter. If the numbers remain small will they say they were dumb wrong or Whew out tactics stopped it?!
Maybe this will start a revolution of slepticism about authority conclusions.
When have you ever contributed to any science discussion here? All you do is troll your usual Creationist idiocy. And whine. I will give you that: you’re second to none when it comes to being a butthurt snowflake.
Wait a minute. I’m like your president? Well I’m sure his info is good.
Your the math guy! The rate of increase was always trivial. Ny what I have read about Chins they only have 14,000 cases now. think about it. that means the great number did not lead to a great, greater, number. Most recovered in the last month and so there is a great decline so much its America/europe who have more active cases.
I predict what happened, if accurate from china stas, will happen in Americva/europe, hopefully too, and no one on TSZ wil know anyone who gets this. ( I almost would say knowing anyone tested but play it consrvative)
Why am i wrong? Does the creationist have to fix everything??
By the way its not being over 60 years but that , on a curve, usually those over that are weak in recovery from flues. Flues kill many elderly people though they say its old age. If anyone is normal vigorous, i’m sure you, then even if you got it, very unlikely, you would recover as fast as a teenager which would be fast. Don’t get it and I promise you will not! I guess we should all make predictions for numbers in say about June. I think america will be under 100,000 and probably under 75,000, very possible under 50,000. uOtherwise the criticism against Trump should be WHY is america not doing as well as China?(all this is based on stats from China and North americas slow increase.
No more nonesecence here then anything i write or show me why with math figures.
Everyone but especially a left wing establishment whose time has passed.
This might do it but they will say WE ONLY SAID POTENTIAL. We stoped the increase by our coverage etc etc etc.
why? Even if wrong why would this be censored? Let it be a reflection on this creationist! I predict this will not be a epidemic, relative to hugh populations and I disagree with the term when its small numbers relative sorry WHO.
I gave my reasons and stand by them. I don’t oppose social distacing but think its dumb. Millions of people ado not need to distance from millions of others. yet still to stop the trivial increae it would be right but so would it for the common cold.
Lets give it two months if the stats on china are not persuasive.
Even if I was wrong it would not change the world and so censorship is absurd. Do you have credibility by the way? Hmmm
Liar Liar
BTW: I forgot. We can’t keep you on…
Come back… 1 year…🤗
Now I know you are a farmer…and you didn’t read my post and the article I linked…
BTW: Make sure you use organic manure as you should have sufficient supply now from within…🤣.
It sucks, doesn’t it, when the admin/moderators themselves don’t give a shit about the alleged rules.
See above comment.
See above comment.
Even the esteemed DNA_Jock, morally superior to us all, cannot resist pounding his chest and declaring how stupid, ignorant, and slow on the uptake other commenters are.
You make Trump proud D_J!
Telling the truth is being kind and supportive. Btw, I see a lot of vile comments on this thread. Sorry to see you’re not enforcing your own rules and guidelines.
Schizophora,
Hey Dr Fraud, how much do you charge poor Flint for your phychobabble analysis?
Schizophora,
Focus on Flints, Dr Fraud.
No I am not, you are making that up. I am talking about fun jewish jokes.
I am talking about fun jewish jokes. I can’t make it any clearer that I am NOT talking about the word that scares you so much.
No, stupid. Someone else objects and Paley [surrogate] replies. It’s a dialog. Is anyone else that dense to not understand this basic structure?
Watch out! The ever-impartial Alan Fox is on the case.
I suspect it’s reject without reading. Reading for comprehension is beyond Nonlin, as repeatedly demonstrated, just like Nonlin’s inability to deal with abstractions.
Haha!
You’re going somewhere with this, but you’re a bit confused. This will help: http://nonlin.org/philosophy-religion-and-science/
I laugh when you struggle to link them.
As a matter of fact, you stumbled into the Paley thread. Are you even wearing trousers?
Corneel, what did I say about his book vs his watch argument? Are you forgetting your memory pills again?
Remember to take your pills to not forget to take your memory pills.
Don’t you believe the “evolution” cretinism started with that Darwin. There’s an even older fart-er Darwin in that movie to not speak of other, older imbeciles like them.
Not enough. Astrology is also a model of reality.
Sure you do (not model, but proof): http://nonlin.org/intelligent-design/. Unless you also forgot your memory pills.
Wait a minute. Why don’t we use the wonderful powers of “evolution” to tell us what will happen? Also find out who is the “fittest” of them all and let only him have sex will all the women plus Greta… you know for the sake of mankind and to stop Globull Worming.
First one is false. Second one doesn’t apply to anything.
Look who’s enjoying the show for free.
Explain to him Joe Falsenstein. Earn your entertainment.
Sore loser.
Endless stupid bullshit. Not worth addressing.
2.b. and 3.c. I’ll add that we call it ‘analogy’ but in fact it’s ‘certainty’ given we know no reasonable alternative to “what looks created has always proved to be created” (also 3.h).
How? Make your case.
This is too stupid to address.
That’s what you think they should have written in the paper do you? You think that allows a comparison of the ‘probability”?
You are mentally ill.
Why would you lie about others?
Only idiots don’t know China is a fucking prison and the other two are shitholes even covid avoids. Some people called socialists think prisons and shitholes are desirable. If only they moved there and leaved us be.
WTF is this nonsense?
Suicidal whites like yourself do what suicidal idiots always do.
I know you’re a starving, unemployed impresario, but DO make an effort and follow the thread.
If you don’t understand something, like the very clear and well documented objections I presented, shouldn’t you doubt your own intelligence first and foremost?
Very funny coming from someone that doesn’t pay any attention. The claim was that cit plus is “beneficial”, so why should it “only adaptive in an environment”?!? It’s a FREEBIE because “beneficial”. So they should out compete all e coli.
And another thing you’re not paying attention to: if “evolution” is not happening in e coli, what are the chances said “evolution” is happening anywhere else?!? “Zero” is the right answer. That’s right.
BTW, when you claim e coli differ 80% in their genes, you’re committing a fallacy – namely the assumption that we are the sum of our genes. That assumption is demonstrably false.
Your guess is false. Next?
This is plain stupid. And you know it full well.
I didn’t say that. This is just the mental cage your brain is banging on 🙂 The penguin is no better designed than any other organism existing or extinct. And that’s another failure of “evolution”, the assumptions extinct organisms were somehow inferior.
Your problem is that “fit” is not observable as truck driver admitted. Yes the crazy story is built on that mandatory step: “some selection happening based on a fit”. So how is that step actually happening?!? Let’s retrace that, shall we? Because without it, your captain and his ship full of shit is going down.
Yeah… no, not really. See? Your mental cage is playing tricks on you again and giving you contusions. Better take it easy the rest of the season and maybe give up entirely this contact sport. 🙂
I know you’re a starving, unemployed impresario, but DO make an effort and follow the thread.
If you don’t understand something, like the very clear and well documented objections I presented, shouldn’t you doubt your own intelligence first and foremost?
Very funny coming from someone that doesn’t pay any attention. The claim was that cit plus is “beneficial”, so why should it “only adaptive in an environment”?!? It’s a FREEBIE because “beneficial”. So they should out compete all e coli.
And another thing you’re not paying attention to: if “evolution” is not happening in e coli, what are the chances said “evolution” is happening anywhere else?!? “Zero” is the right answer. That’s right.
BTW, when you claim e coli differ 80% in their genes, you’re committing a fallacy – namely the assumption that we are the sum of our genes. That assumption is demonstrably false.
Your guess is false. Next?
This is plain stupid. And you know it full well.
I didn’t say that. This is just the mental cage your brain is banging on 🙂 The penguin is no better designed than any other organism existing or extinct. And that’s another failure of “evolution”, the assumptions extinct organisms were somehow inferior.
Your problem is that “fit” is not observable as truck driver admitted. Yes the crazy story is built on that mandatory step: “some selection happening based on a fit”. So how is that step actually happening?!? Let’s retrace that, shall we? Because without it, your captain and his ship full of shit is going down.
Yeah… no, not really. See? Your mental cage is playing tricks on you again and giving you contusions. Better take it easy the rest of the season and maybe give up entirely this contact sport. 🙂
This is the only thing worth addressing from the whole stupidity. Too bad it was discussed like a thousand times and stupids still don’t get it. That it doesn’t work theoretically and it most certainly doesn’t work observationally. But math genius gets it. Only he doesn’t have anything intelligent to counter with. Probably not truck driver or crazy-when-cornered, to not speak of the less “evolved” ones. Haha.
Joe Felsenstein,
Surely, we’re in for a treat, then, Joe, since KN actually does self-label as a “Marxist”!
It isn’t your great-great-grandparents’ “Marxism”, mind you, but something much more “sophisticated”. That’s KN’s political-economic “philosophical” packaged deal that he delivers to undergrad students with apparent “post-modern” impunity.
Has anyone seen Omagain walking around Hamburg with a boning knife?
libel: a published false statement that is damaging to a person’s reputation; a written defamation.
Alan Fox,
There seems to be some misunderstanding. I was just wondering if anyone has seen the movie “Omagain Walking Around Hamburg with a Boning Knife?”
I think it was in Cannes a few years ago. Hard to find now, but it was a very interesting mental thriller. Sort of like Eraserhead meets Flowers for Algernon.
DNA_Jock,
Jock, I thought you liked movies?
I realize you don’t understand what they are saying, but “Omagain Walking Around Hamburg With a Boning Knife” has some sparkly things to look at-like the shiny metal prods they attach to the main characters head.
OMagain,
Do you still enjoy tennis?
OMagain,
If you saw a boning knife sitting in a stadium seat, would you be able to tell if it was designed or not?
Alan Fox,
I just gave an example and you moved it to guano.
You wouldn’t allow me to give examples because …..You are now claiming giving examples is talking about moderation, in your twisted mind.
Alan Fox,
I didn’t raise questions.
Boning knives. People can look at them and see their purpose. Now stop trying to censor my posts.
Alan Fox,
People can’t look at a boning knife and see it’s purpose??
Moron thinks again (disaster!): “why not out of context something?” Sure, that will work in moron land.
False. The peacock is born the way he is. There’s nothing more he can do. Furthermore, that’s why we have definitions (as bad as they are), so people like you don’t start making up stuff. Look up “sexual selection”.
Then that’s that.
The genome is a package. So yes, it selects itself which is self referential and stupid. Even “natural selection” is not that stupid in this limited sense (fully stupid otherwise).
Allan Miller,
Apparently there’s other things you don’t get. Too many. As you can see, Moron got the honor of having his comments objectively addressed. Well, those that are not too moronic… That makes those comments not ad hominid.
Corneel,
So Corneel, besides the person, when will you start addressing the ideas too? Let me guess… when you will have half decent counterarguments. I hear they’re working on genetically engineered flying pigs…
This is not true. And you know it. If it were something simple and full of blunders, you would have jumped up and down like a happy little monkey to show your superiority. Well, tough! Silence speaks too.
This is not true. And you know it. If it were something simple and full of blunders, you would have jumped up and down like a happy little ***unicorn*** to show your superiority. Well, tough! Silence speaks too.
You seem to be very confused and in clear conflict with your own dogma. I thought we’re all supposed to be a big happy family of organisms. All equal and all that. If not mistaken, Corneel himself, claimed vehemently that humans are nothing special. Then why the discrimination?!? Do you hate fluffy little colorful and wonderful unicorns as well? We shall see.
This just reminds me. Corneel, why do you put down the piggy? Are you also rejecting your own dogma? For shame!
If ID is about “design detection” then when will it start doing that?
colewd, recently you were asked about design detection and you responded with a video where you claim that Behe details the process.
But when you are asked now you say:
But if you have information that “some artifacts” have a stronger signal then others that presupposes you have better data then a mere youtube video where the process of determining the strength of the signal is detailed.
So you either have the specific details of “stronger signals” or you don’t. If you did, why did you link to the video instead of the details of where ID has determined that some things have “stronger signals” then other things?
I’ll tell you why. It’s because you are a fucking liar who will say anything, anything in service of your pathetic “god”.
Either link to the science of “stronger design signals” or admit your are a pathological liar.
I think this is beyond your intelect.
OK. Ask your questions.
The appearance and fact of design. The unity of life. The universal laws. EVERYTHING. What a stupid question! And the others are far worse.
You really believe this, or you’re just saying? Either way you’re fucked. Wow!
Are you questioning Nonlin’s intellect?