Sometimes very active discussions about peripheral issues overwhelm a thread, so this is a permanent home for those conversations.
I’ve opened a new “Sandbox” thread as a post as the new “ignore commenter” plug-in only works on threads started as posts.
Sober reflection from Francis Collins.
Here
Hat-tip pandasthumb.org
PS I apologize if there’s no way for other commenters to read Collin’s essay without paying at least $4. I managed to read it once using a VPN but now NYT wants me to pay for a subscription. No offence to NYT but there’s not enough content that interests me to warrant it.
It looks like Japan, is going to unleash the new “vaccine” that was a vaccine in the first place, that is apparently self-amplifying…
I have lost track of nonsense with mRNA s…t. I’m pretty convinced the convict-19 whatever was s..t. So there is no way self- amplifying s…t will work.
What I would like to see is DNA_jock, Alan Fox and others to take pictures and post them here when they succumb to the real problem this time…
Be well!
J-Mac,
OMG! That’s right!
You’ve been reading the People’s Voice again, haven’t you?
ROFLMAO
It’s not self-amplifying, silly: some vaccines are self-assembling. We have actually covered this on TSZ.
DNA_Jock,
You don’t think people who promoted the so-called mRNA vaccines belong in jail? You claim you injected yourself with this s..t.I It doesn’t matter to me if this is true or not. Either way, as a scientist, or other, you are dead. You will have to live with this burden of the results of your ignorance for the rest of your life, which I wish you to be as long as possible…
I would like to have DNA_jock banned from this forum for spreading misinformation.
He has no evidence that his side effects from mRNA “vaccine” had any positive effect. Unless he provides evidence, he should be banned. Period. He works for the big pharmaceutical companies and unless he denies what he had already admitted, it is easy
Would you, indeed? That is not going to happen. Plus you make a wild and unsupported claim. Support your claim that evidence supplied by DNA_Jock is “misinformation” or stop making it.
This statement makes as much sense as Donald Trump does. In a very few cases, adverse side effects have been noted, but for the vast majority of people (including me, who has received four doses of anti-Covid vaccines, and, subsequently a very mild case of Covid) the positive benefit of being immune to infection far outweighs the day or so of a sore arm.
Just got the latest vaccine. Things went well, and I’m glad I’ve added some covid protection to my normal set of behavioral precautions.
aleta,
You induced me to look again at Edward Jenner’s life and career. Fascinating!
I’d like to know how many, everyone, who comment here who has been more than happy to receive the mRNA vaccine .
Just say yes or no
Alan Fox,
You must believe “the science”… until your family member is not as fortunate as we unvaxxed are … Family friend woke up but his 27 year old son didn’t
Yes.
Multiple times.
Don’t forget to line up for booster number …What is it in your country?
If I were to receive a vaccine, I’d hope I wouldn’t have to take it again… Do you know what I mean? What kind of a vaccine is it, if you have to get it every 3-4 moths like DNA-JOCK DID? He sold out… so who gives a s..t?
Some vaccines only need to be taken once, or infrequently. Others regularly, like the flu or at this time covid. It depends on the condition being treated. I’m pretty familiar with quite a bit about covid medically and epidemiologically, and about the vaccine, and I feel that especially at my age and with some conditions I have the cost/benefit ratio weighs in heavily on staying up-to-date with my vaccines.
But why do you give a shit about what I do?
I watched the Joe Rogan interview with Trump so you don’t have to. It’s all lies. It’s interesting only if you are interested in studying mentally off-base people.
I don’t know Joe Rogan that well so it was difficult for me to decide at first if he is so very nice and accommodating that he used outright lies to get Trump to open up and feel safe and comfortable (which worked, by the way) or whether he actually believes those lies that he used to get Trump to open up.
For example, at a relatively early point Rogan said that he likes JD Vance for vice president and that he thought that Vance’s answer to the election theft question in the VP debate, which Vance countered with the question whether Harris censored people on social media, was a good one. I did not know what to make of it. Is Rogan being nice or deluded?
Luckily this was put to the test towards the end when Rogan asked Trump to explain his election theft allegations. Rogan appeared genuinely concerned/interested when asking this. Trump confirmed his opinion that “the election was rigged, robbed and stolen” and when Rogan pressed him for evidence, Trump only stated a few general vague (and false) points about this, such as “they didn’t get the legislative approval for many things in many cases” (that’s the whole sentence, so that Rogan had to ask to specify “What things?”) and “they wouldn’t give access in certain areas to ballots”. Rogan then asked “Are you gonna present this ever?” to which Trump changed the topic to the Hunter laptop and Russia hoax and Rogan went along with the misdirection drawing conclusions in favour of Trump, leading me to conclude that he really believes those lies. When Trump misdirects from the election theft evidence topic, Rogan is satisfied like any unthinking MAGA cultist.
Erik,
With just over a week to go, and a sizeable percentage of the electorate already having voted, I guess crossing fingers is as good a strategy as any
I often wonder if there is an expert on this forum WHO can explain how the mRNA “vaccines” were supposed to work and how they “worked” in reality…
I think we have an expert on this site who can use fraudulent stats to prove his point so that he wouldn’t have take any responsibility for jabbing himself with the fraudulent vaccine..
Thoughts?
See here for some expert explanation: https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/therapy/mrnavaccines/
Vjtorley,
Because of the respect I have for you and your research skills, I was wondering if you could write up a post on the bible and its contagion issue. Some people claim the bible never mentions anything about contagion, so this may be something you would like to look into, if you like.
Here are apparently newly converted atheists to Christianity talking about something you know well…
Alan,
If you are still with it, I had submitted a post you will hate.
Please let me know why…
The life saving “mRNA vaccines” have a problem that DNA_Joke forgot to tell you all..
They are contaminated with DNA levels that are beyond what regulators accept. This can only mean one thing: Pfizer and Moderna knew it and they ignored it.
DNA_joke responsible for this issue must have known about it but will not respond…
None.
Would you like to know why? Because his lies will not reach anyone…even morons who feel they had been served by mRNA vaccines are…
This forum is so out of date that even Darwin would avoid it…
J-Mac, why don’t you ever provide links to sources for your claims?
For instance: “They are contaminated with DNA levels that are beyond what regulators accept.”
Can you provide some sources that explain and backup that claim?
I see it in the pending folder. I notice you quote no sources. On conducting a quick Google search on your claim of DNA contamination in RNA vaccine samples, I find the claim has been fact-checked and found to be false and alarmist. Unless you can find some reliable evidence of DNA contamination being an issue in RNA vaccines, I won’t publish it. I’ll move it back into the draft folder in case you want to add sources and acknowledge the published material refuting your claim
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41550-024-02472-9
petrushka,
Wow, too much excitement at my age!
Why would a medical emergency, as covid-19 was apparently was, be the priority of the US Department of Defence?
https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1762159862836809836
I gotta tell you, I do lose my sense of smell and taste at the same time each time I uncover this stuff…
BTW: I do not endorse refraining from “boosters”, especially the special ones served in the Canary Islands, Guinness Spike lol
J-Mac,
Yowser, TheChiefNerd, that’s some high quality tin-foil that you are rocking there, kid. Silly me, I thought your 2ndsmartestguyintheworld was the cream of the crop.
Learn a little history, though: walking away from offensive BW occurred under Nixon in 1969, not Ford in 1975. Credit where credit is due.
Because it has always been USAMRIID‘s role to combat naturally occurring infectious agents of strategic importance.
As I told you previously, I only got to meet my wife because she had done BW research for USAMRIID.
I did enjoy your ‘vaccines have excessive DNA contamination’ myth, though. I’ve read the reports, and I am familiar with the techniques used. Let me know if you ever become brave enough to discuss the evidence.
🙂
Now that convict-19 has been identified as a military operation with the US DoD and its many departments taking the lead, like biowarfare military complex, the only question remains: Why?
The documents show that DoD ordered covid-19 countermeasures and prototypes without the required process of the safety and efficiency testing…
The document states that the US government ordered prototypes and “demonstrations” in references to vaccines…
This could mean only one thing: the so-called clinical trials were a theatre…
“that’s some high quality tin-foil that you are rocking there, kid.”
Good line.
Gives me some insight as to how people believe in gods. If you can believe that, you can (and probably will) believe anything.
Since there is no doubt anymore that DoD and NSC ran covid-19 operations, the questions remain but mainly one: WHY?
I doubt anybody here has enough “juice” to figure it out…
I am fond of conspiracy theories as entertainment, but they need to be coherent.
I don’t believe any government would deliberately create a contagious pathogen as a weapon.
Not because I think governments are moral, but because there is no way to contain the spread. Many governments made valiant efforts to contain covid, but time and evolution won.
Now, governments do research on vaccines, which involves handling dangerous pathogens. Murphey’s Law applies.
Maybe they don’t need to.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax_weaponization
Old, low tech. I was responding to conspiracy theories that covid was developed as a weapon. I could, with some evidence, believe that covid was the result of vaccine research gone wrong. It wouldn’t be a first for China.
I am not pushing that scenario. Just saying it is compatible with known activities.
Making highly contagious pathogens as weapons makes no sense.
Not to a reasonable person, no. However, reasonable people don’t seem to have a grip on events, currently.
So, it is happening… we are assembling the right team of people to test the so-called mRNA/DNA vaccines whether or not they actually can code for the spike protein…
One of the main sponsors is convinced that eukaryotic cells will only produce spook proteins if any at all…
I will be updating you with the progress…
I am reminded of some seminal work regarding the nutritional preferences of ticks.
I shiver with antici…
Bill Gates’ interview is very interesting at the 4:45 min mark about RFK Jr.
“He (RFK Jr) wrote a book saying Toni Fauci and I killed millions of children and billions of dollars with vaccines… and people can judge for themselves whether that is true or not…”
So, it is clear that Bill Gates and Toni Fauci are suing RFK Jr. for defamation and will have him removed from his position of authority HHS as soon as they will win the lawsuit, right????
For no particular reason no lawsuits has been field by Bill or Tony or both against RFK Jr. ….
I’m sure it will never be filed for obvious reasons
No, that is not at all clear. When he says “people can judge for themselves” he seems to be hinting that he has no interest in a lawsuit.
Neil Rickert,
I hear that eggs help with cognitive functions in some birds…
Is the current First Lady of France a transgender?
In short, I was asked to verify, if possible, that the current First Lady of France is a man.
I was given many photos and file but the attached are the most revealing.
Those who wish to investigate should watch Candace Owens who is being sued by the Macrons…
https://candaceowens.com/video/becoming-brigitte-candace-owens-x-xavier-poussard-ep-6/
Is this Brigitte?
You are getting old, Jock…
So you are a renowned investigator. Good to have you.
The male pics are her brother. It’s some French joke to claim that Brigitte Macron swapped gender with her brother. Their sense of humour is like that. Maybe somebody living in France can elaborate, so you can finalise a proper report of your investigations, a good one that will get lots of likes, maybe even go viral.
I live within an easy drive of Lyme.
I’ve been treated twice, my wife once. The yard guy was hospitalized for a month. The dog nearly died.
They were called deer ticks, but I’m now told that deer are not a reservoir for the disease. We have every sort of wildlife wandering through the yard. Deer, black bears, coyotes, bobcats, possums, raccoons mice, chipmunks. Those are just rhe ones caught on cameras.
Deer and bears have absolutely no fear of humans. Try to chase them away, and they just stare at you.
There is a rumour that The First Lady of France is a man.
Candace Owens,who is well known in North America, is willing to put her all professional career on the line that this is true.
https://candaceowens.com/video/becoming-brigitte-the-epilogue/
A friend of mine asked me as a favour to evaluate the case because of my experience to determine whether this is true or not just by evaluating the pictures…
There is a lot on the line and some people are nervous willing to pay big $ to make this problem go away…
What do you think?
BTW: I get paid no matter what I rule… more if I can make this problem go away… Should I? Brigitte is a penis worshipping trans apparently….
I can’t attach pictures. Is there a problem?
So, the claim is that Brigitte (on the left) and her brother (on the right) are the same person.
What do you think?
https://x.com/xah_lee/status/1891715328201121907
Thanks Erik! I only remember good conversations with you which means I’m getting old lol
Unfortunately I’m not into this stuff. But a family member asked me for an option. After looking at some pictures I was able to determine that Brigitte Macron and the guy they claim to be her brother are not the same person. It was easy.
Now, things got complicated. There are some people I don’t know who would to make this problem go away. Apparently they are serious and they would like to make a statement with real evidence. $ is not an issue.
I don’t like working for people like that because it means usually its CIA or the military industrial complex.
I hesitate to respond to J-Mac’s latest bit of gullible idiocy. But…
@ J-Mac, check facts before posting. When posting, cite facts. It’s been a while but I will move further fact-free nonsense to guano.