…the noyau, an animal society held together by mutual animosity rather than co-operation
Robert Ardrey, The Territorial Imperative.
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The Skeptical Zone
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken."
To continue with lying asshole Sal’s return to lying about my reasonable comment, he “asked”:
I replied:
Which is the correct answer.
Lying dumbfuck today asks:
Yeah I said uranium. Of course someone as stupid and evil as Sal won’t deal with the answer, but with his stupid lying mischaracterization of what I’d written.
Well, he only got into this again to lie some more in his vicious hatred of all who get the better of his fuckwitted lies.
Note that I didn’t bring up this particuarly stupidly dishonest bullshit from the hapless Sal, but he can’t fault me honestly, so what else is he to do?
Glen Davidson
Sal “the human shit stain” Cordova has a long and well documented history of being a total douche. Lying comes as naturally to him as breathing. Why it was though he would behave differently at this venue is anyone’s guess.
I think we should make a distinction though between a bottom-dweller and a bottom-feeder. Just because shit rolls downhill it doesn’t mean Glen’s a piece of shit.
Discuss.
Sal’s track record of a distinct lack of honesty and integrity suggests otherwise, as you are well aware of, Mung, given your personal history with him modifying your comments in order to misrepresent you and your positions. ERV characterized him appropriately.
Oh, aye. 🙂
I’m willing to agree with VJT that Salvador is a human being. I’d even go so far as to say that he is rather bright, smart.
Since we’re on the subject of honesty and integrity:
No, I don’t recall making such a claim and I’ve asked you a few times to support your claim that I did. Is that ever going to happen?
I missed any request for clarification from me.my apologies for that.
I’m surprised you have forgotten that incident at UD. Upright Biped made sweeping claim of an example of objective reality, e.g., that all vertebrates use hemoglobin to transport oxygen to their tissues. You jumped on that bandwagon and tried to defend it with vigor. That was until I (as franklin) pointed out that some ice fish have no myoglobin or hemoglobin and have lost the genes to produce these proteins.pigments. It was a couple of years ago.
This evening I’ll muck about in the UD archives and see if I can’t locate that exchange. Might take me a bit to time since my ripping dial-up connection at 25-50 kbs doesn’t make such searches easy…….but not impossible.
I believe it was the first time you have ever heard of ice fish and their lack hemoglobin.
It must have been before this:
could have been but I can’t look now as I have some fires to start and some brush and trees to clear to improve our property’s fire clearance/protection.
That was a pretty funny exchange….quite a bit of stumbling by the ID ‘experts’ at UD over that issue. I had expected a pretty straight forward response/discussion but I evidently forgot where I was posting and who I was interacting with in that thread.
Does this help?
Yes, thanks.
And that would explain why I don’t recall ever making a claim that I never made.
BK:
Yes, I’m going to claim I never made that claim. Nice job of misrepresenting me.
mung 2 comment 93 of the linked thread:
To me you obviously thought that you, and Upright Biped, were going to have a gotcha moment with ES. given your following comments I don’t think that is an unreasonable interpretation of what you stated. It appears that you did think that it was an objective reality otherwise you would have simply corrected Upright Biped instead of pushing his erroneous gotcha question. In case I am mistaken an objective reality would have to hold in all cases not just some.
at comment 94 I (as franklin) state:
which mung follows with @ 95:
If you did not think that the claim you repeated was an objective reality why the accusation of trolling? Instead I would have expected a “of course you are correct, franklin, all vertebrates do not have hemoglobin and, therefore, cannot use it to transport oxygen to their tissues. Nope you instead double-downed with the trolling accusation. If this reading is incorrect perhaps you can clarify what you meant by those statements, particularly your comment @95.
So no, mung, I don’t feel I have misrepresented you in this case at all.
How do others interpret this exchange. If I have it wrong I am more than willing to retract it and offer an apology.
Yes, you are confused. And no, I’m not going to re-debate that thread with you. It’s an objective fact that I never made the claim you said I made, and that as soon as you raised that interpretation of what I said I denied it.
Don’t think so, Mung.
the most charitable reading of your comments is in opposition to your claims to the contrary, Mung.
I’ll stand by my interpretation of your comments given the evidence you provided with your comments in that thread.
I actually never thought you would address the comments you made @95 of that thread since they are quite clear as they stand.
Joe has a multi year history of lying, being abusive and a general dick. And then he is surprised when people throw it back in his face.
Poor little Joe. I guess fixing toasters isn’t as rewarding as it used to be.
Well crap. I’ve been stockpiling used toasters for when I retire.
Probably safer that having Joe repair it for you.
Delusions of grandeur:
” I would love to get into a debate with Larry and have it at his university. That way all there can see what a lying loser and coward this ass-face really is.
Larry Moran- couldn’t support blind watchmaker evolution if his life depended on it”
http://intelligentreasoning.blogspot.com/2017/01/laurence-moran-univ-of-toronto-is-liar.html
Funny when creationists get on a “no one will debate me / I’ve already won because I litigated it in my mind and know your response” kick.
Can you imagine what it must be like to be Joe Gallien?
*shudder*
No. but I’m sure that his sibling parents are proud.
LMFAO!
Classic Joe fibs:
“Yes I have programmed and used GAs to find solutions to encryption issues.”
“Name ONE GA expert here- besides me (yes I have used and written them) ”
“Look at it this way- Star Trek: Next generation- Lt Data was able to rewire his neuro networks due to the algorithms INSIDE OF HIM”
“My IQ is only 150.”
“Yes, my IQ is much higher than fat Felsenstein’s”
“The is the beauty of being me- anything that any man does I can understand.”
“Who the fuck are you to say there is no point of keeping track of the LKN?”
“Ya see, as I have said before, designing agencies, successful designing agencies anyway, usually do have the capabilities to design what it is they are designing.”
” Anyone who is aware of my physical condition (Thanks Iraq) knows I cannot jump up & down.”
“That doesn’t count the experiments I conduct in my basement. Some labs would be jealous of the equipment I house & use there.
For example I now know that ticks are more attracted to watermelon rinds then they are to orange peels or orange slices. I also know that dragonflies play.”
“The same place I have lived for years.
If you want to visit me I can be found at 550 Main St in Keene, NH. Just ask for Joe G.”
“Junk DNA has been abandoned “
Isn’t that what usually happens to junk?
Nah, I bet that blur in the background was Joe! He did turn up! You know where he’s been by the watermelon/ticks he leaves behind, a sort of calling card if you will.
Is that a flying toaster?
I am sure it is much better than being keiths, Alan Fox, Patrick, RichieTHughes, adapa, acartia, Allan Miller, OM again, Robin, newton, Ahmed, Larry Moran, OgreMKV, etc
Joe got to retire in his 40s…
Where? Next to the guy who can’t jump up and down, not because he is morbidly obese, but due to his time in Iraq?
Because Joe got fired from his technician job at Stratus Computers for making physical threats of violence from his work computer.
It’s inauguration day.
Good riddance Joe Biden.
No more private state department email servers!
I am overwhelmed with the science at UD these days. ASSF!
News Flash: Trump is president because America has turned from God.
You have a problem with Joe Biden??
Has he done even one thing you can disapprove of?
He supported Hillary Clinton. 😉
So Richie gets to post lies about me cuz this is Noyau? The same Richie that was cheering for the Patrick until the Patrick was proven to be totally wrong about AVIDA? I guess when you are such a sad loser as Richie you have to lie about others to try to feel better about yourself.
And what about adapa’s ignorant spewage? Joe retired in his 40s cuz he was fired from Stratus? Really? Only an absolute moron would think that made any sense.
There isn’t any evidence Joe was fired from Stratus whereas there is evidence for massive layoffs from Stratus.
adapa posts a picture that has my vehicle in it and that is supposed to be evidence for my not being there? Really?
And why does Glen get to be such a willfully ignorant asshole outside of Noyau? For that matter why do all evos get that privilege?
Ho is that not against the rules? Did you report it to a mod?
I don’t see your scooter in the picture. Where is it?
I would love to get into a debate with Larry and have it at his university. That way all there can see what a lying loser and coward this ass-face really is.
Larry Moran- couldn’t support blind watchmaker evolution if his life depended on it
There is no doubt about it. If the rest of the world can’t figure out how to test the claims of blind watchmaker evolution I am very confident that Larry will also choke on it.
This just in- physics be damned, a molecular code turns water into ice at zero C:
“The molecule [H2O] is not a code. It doesn’t fit the definition.”
Really? So the fact that it crystallized at zero C is just magic? Or is their a built in molecular code?
Physics is magic to that loser
Could you explain why, exactly, Prof. Moran or his university would give a platform to an uneducated, ineducable, bloviating mouthbreather?
Just hypothetically, of course.
You won’t be participating, Patrick. So they won’t be giving a platform to an uneducated, ineducable, bloviating mouthbreather
Patrick,
Is it not true that you enjoy bloviating mouthbreathers? Surely you have bloviated more than your share of mouthbreathers during your closed door garage children’s plays?
I would pay money to see this. Joe’s first challenge will be to find out where Toronto is. Next, he has to figure out how to get from Pearson airport to the university (hint: it is on University Avenue). Then he would have to find his way to the hall where the debate is to be held.
But who am I kidding? Finding out where Toronto is would tax his intellect to the point of physical collapse.
Isn’t it weird that Acartia’s family tree doesn’t have any branches. What? That was a prediction based on Acartia’s posts? LoL!
We can rest assured that Patrick has never taught his children anything.
For such a debate to happen it would have to be demonstrated that you have something to say. Do you have any recordings of debates you participated in like the one you are proposing?
Or are we supposed to take you at your work you can debate with a professional in the field?
Patrick, if you’re too scared to meet me in the parking lot of the DI (there isn’t one) we could meet in the parking lot of the Seattle PD.
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They aren’t that far apart. 🙂
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Feel free to google the nearest bar if you need to gather your courage.