Moderation Issues (6)

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2,711 thoughts on “Moderation Issues (6)

  1. Yes — when you are ready, use this thread to ask a moderator to publish it for you.
    Done.

  2. Walter Kloover:
    New post from first-time poster in the queue. Does a moderator have to approve?

    DNA_Jock
    Ignored
    says:
    February 21, 2019 at 1:10 am

    Yes — when you are ready, use this thread to ask a moderator to publish it for you.
    Done.

    Don’t ask Alan then because he is not a moderator, he is an admin. He quit as a moderator, but wanted to keep his admin title for the prestige. Someone better inform him that he has no publishing authority.

  3. Mung:
    Is ignorance of the rules a defense, in particular from someone who is a demonstrable liar?

    I think that depends if one is a moderator here or not. If one is, I think it is practically a requirement.

  4. phoodoo: I think that depends if one is a moderator here or not. If one is, I think it is practically a requirement.

    Ignorance of the rules is a requirement to be a moderator?

  5. phoodoo: And a defense, apparently.

    So all the comments that have been sent to Guano were simply what, a fortuitous accident, posts that were moved go Guano in spite of the fact that they violated no rule?

  6. Mung: Ignorance of the rules is a requirement to be a moderator?

    No ,but not being smart enough to say no thanks is.

  7. newton: No ,but not being smart enough to say no thanks is.

    Personally, I am glad that phoodoo and Mung want to spend their time arguing about how many TSZ moderators can dance on the head of a pin. I would encourage Gregory to focus his contributions here, as well. At a stroke, that would keep word-salad, word-gaming and motive-mongering out of the more interesting threads. And in that order.

  8. timothya: Which is why I posted my comment here.

    I took your comment here

    I am glad that phoodoo and Mung want to spend their time arguing about how many TSZ moderators can dance on the head of a pin. I would encourage Gregory to focus his contributions here, as well. At a stroke, that would keep word-salad, word-gaming and motive-mongering out of the more interesting threads.

    as a request that others should refrain from cluttering other threads with moderation complaints. I assumed, wrongly it seems, you were unaware it is already a rule. Apologies.

  9. Alan Fox: I took your comment here

    as a request that others should refrain from cluttering other threads with moderation complaints. I assumed, wrongly it seems, you were unaware it is already a rule. Apologies.

    No apology required (though I doubt that the word-salad, word-gamers and motive-mongerers will adopt my suggestion).

  10. Mung: So all the comments that have been sent to Guano were simply what, a fortuitous accident, posts that were moved go Guano in spite of the fact that they violated no rule?

    You don’t think there are posts that got sent to guano that didn’t break any rules?

    Wake up man.

  11. Neil Rickert: In your first sentence, I see: “as the devour rather than the builder”.

    That does not parse properly for me.Can you recheck?

    “Devour” means “destroyer” in reference to evolution…

  12. Neil Rickert: Perhaps you mean “devourer”.In my lexicon, “devour” means eat.

    Thanks. Fixed. Auto correct wouldn’t let me type devourer… lol

  13. Mung:
    I agree with Neil.

    You’re def a better moderator than JimmyB or Vince. I don’t care what phoodoo says.👼

  14. For those who care:
    I will not respond to comments that are not related to OPs or my own comments.
    I don’t care if moderators break the rules they’re supposed to follow themselves.
    If someone is wondering why I don’t respond to his comments, it is because of the above or because he is deliberately wasting my time.

    If moderators can’t restrain themselves from trolling, maybe they should consider doing something else other than being hypocrites…

  15. Mung:
    I was born a troll and I’ll die a troll.

    If you are going to troll religions too, you will 🙂
    I know a thing or two about that… Catholic Church probably has a hitman looking for me… lol

  16. Mung [to TAq]: And you avoided answering the questions because you knew I was right.

    IMO this is a rule violation.
    Do you agree, Mung?

    It is also false, but that’s not important right now
    </Airplane>

  17. DNA_Jock: IMO this is a rule violation.
    Do you agree, Mung?

    It is also false, but that’s not important right now
    </Airplane>

    Can you two focus on people who actually pollute the OPs with F words and no content?
    It’s painful to watch…

  18. DNA_Jock: IMO this is a rule violation. Do you agree, Mung?

    I agree that’s your opinion. Don’t forget to mention how egregious a violation it is too.

    Do your duty! 🙂

    I get the feeling you think I take things far more seriously than I actually do. But perhaps, if you try hard enough, I’ll throw a tantrum and have to ban myself.

  19. mods: Not sure if this is in the works or not but in any case feel free to guano my comment where I replied to jmac’s now guanoed comment in the cholesterol paradox thread.

  20. Alan, Neil, Jock:

    Mung informs me (in a PM he sent seven hours ago) that he has been removed as moderator.

    If so, you guys have some explaining to do.

  21. keiths:
    Alan, Neil, Jock:

    Mung informs me (in a PM he sent seven hours ago) that he has been removed as moderator.

    If so, you guys have some explaining to do.

    That would explain why my basic publishing rights were taken away recently and why the remaining “holy trinity” of moderators have been very quiet recently…
    I guess TSZ has devolved…🤔

  22. Mung: For the record, I did not approve of this OP.

    Another clue about the internal struggles between moderators…who approved J-mac’s OPs…🤗

  23. keiths: Mung informs me (in a PM he sent seven hours ago) that he has been removed as moderator.

    His status as moderator is currently being reviewed. In the meantime, his moderator/administrator capabilities are suspended.

    It would not be appropriate to comment on the reasons at this time.

  24. Neil,

    His status as moderator is currently being reviewed. In the meantime, his moderator/administrator capabilities are suspended.

    There is no rule permitting you to suspend a fellow moderator.

    It would not be appropriate to comment on the reasons at this time.

    It’s entirely appropriate. This is the Moderation Issues thread, and the suspension of a fellow moderator is a moderation issue writ large.

    Mung informs me that Alan got upset when Mung restored me recently to Author status. Alan doesn’t like it when someone reverses his moderation abuses.

    Suspending Mung is likewise an abuse of moderator privileges, so of course you guys didn’t announce it and would rather not talk about it.

  25. Regarding Mung’s admin status, there’s nothing to add to what Neil has already said other than to point out we are waiting to hear from Lizzie and Mung.

  26. keiths: Mung informs me that Alan got upset when Mung restored me recently to Author status. Alan doesn’t like it when someone reverses his moderation abuses.

    Wow, if that is true, Alan has truly sunk to new depths of fuckheadery.

  27. keiths:
    Still awaiting an explanation.

    How ridiculous is it that they are making this out like you need some kind of top level security clearance to know what the hell they are doing. Oh the intrigue, oh the backroom scandal crisis management. The main talking point must be, stay unified, no leaks guys!

    What utter bullshit.

  28. Alan Fox:
    Regarding Mung’s admin status, there’s nothing to add to what Neil has already said other than to point out we are waiting to hear from Lizzie and Mung.

    Are you suggesting you have suspended a fellow moderator without the owner’s knowledge and approval? 🤔

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