Please use this thread for (and only for) alerting admins to moderation issues and for raising complaints arising from particular decisions. We remind participants that TSZ is a benign dictatorship, the property of Dr. Elizabeth Liddle. All decisions regarding policy and implementation are hers alone.
Yes, I have been… Thanks for the opportunity! I made Darwinists look better thanks to you! They should buy you Timothy’s gift card or have you visit the “dirty house”…
The Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig OP wasn’t ready to be published. Please remove!!!
That OP has been moved back to draft status.
Neil Rickert,
But what happened to the comments?
And could I suggest that folks save their OPs as “Draft” and not in “pending publication” unless they want them published. Admlins are not mind-readers!
That’s the point. J-Mac had saved his OP in “Pending”.
Thanks. Alan apparently published it…
I was waiting for Dr. Lonnig to comment on his views of creationism and flightless birdies…
I’m going to email him again to see whwther he is going to comment…
Depending on whether he comments or not, I can edit the OP and then get it ready to be published…
They should be still attached to the draft post. Presumably they will reappear if the post is ever published.
Because you PMed me! Jeez!
He’s a plant biologist.
Neil Rickert,
OK; no problem. Going for a stroll in the evening sunshine!
He (J-Mac) probably intended that to be about the “random” OP. And there’s an important point there for J-Mac and others — when requesting that an OP be published, try to be a bit more specific about which OP.
In the meantime, I suppose it all works as background entertainment.
Let’s see!
Alan Fox,
Is there a way for people to save their OP’s as ‘daft’ status?
I could argue that J-Mac asked for his OP to be removed out of sheer embarassment, rather than it being a draft. I hope others saw it, and what I posted in response. I doubt Ernest Rutherford ever got a bigger shock.
I think that’s actually the default — at least for some people.
So, if l post the same OP later, other than with possible comments by Dr. Lonnig, you are going to take it all back, right?
BTW: The embarrassing point lately was your -1 + 1 example used by Einstein almost 100 years ago (left glove right glove analogy) to explain entanglement… Not only was his theory experimentaly proven wrong some 50 years ago, you didn’t even understand what it was about… It definitely didn’t apply to the OP unless accidentally you were trying to prove my point that mutations happen via quantum mechanics… lol
So? He wrote a book on the “evolution” of giraffe’s neck and embarrassed Dawkins…
J-Mac, I am totally unfamiliar with Einstein’s familiarity with a left-glove/right-glove analogy (about what, you don’t say), or even his knowledge of mobius strips, but it is nice to share the opprobrium.
Please publish the The challenge to creationism? Dr. Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig OP.
Thanks, Jmac
quarrion,
I’m not surprised…
-1 + 1 is just the same analogy…
https://curiosity.com/topics/quantum-entanglement-connects-particles-across-any-distance-curiosity/
Didn’t Lizzy say she was coming back on Oct 1?
I hope she can keep her promise, so that we can kick out those lausy, inconsistent admins and have the new era ushered in with mung, keiths and so on…
I guess most of us have no choice but to start our own blogs with the shitty admins here or cut a deal with a devil himself the pissfullofscience.org guy…
Isn’t what politicians do when their ideas get trashed by their own circus?
There should be some sort of penalty for repeatedly ignoring instructions not to dump moderation issues into the comments sections of posts.
I am fairly sure that I’ve seen moderators comment that there’s no rule against off-topic comments. Furthermore, I see my remark as a pithy bit of hyperbole, played to humorous effect, and I believe that most readers will see it similarly — even if they are offended. No one with scrambled eggs for brains is going to think that I am, in a single sentence, literally declaring that psychiatrists should diagnose some patients with Dunning-Kruger Personality Disorder. I think that a smidge of acerbic levity is in order when the most prolific of our authors opens a post with a reference to “this crummy blog.”
I’ve sent phoodoo a personal message, directing him to this comment.
That’s true except for moderation issues.
Just to clarify:
The moderation issues thread is for, and only for, discussing moderation issues. So comments discussing moderation in other threads are liable to move to guano. The moderation issues thread itself is not subject to site-wide rules, so comments not discussing moderation will not be moved from this thread but so far this has not been an issue.
Alan Fox,
Yeah, I saw the possible misreading of what I wrote, and didn’t bother to forestall it. Sorry to have left the work to you.
I’m pretty sure that phoodoo took that remark to be against the rules.
It wasn’t, because it was a general comment. But phoodoo probably took it to be aimed at a particular person.
Did I miss an opportunity to send one of Tom’s posts to Guano?
Damnit!
It’s a baited hook, not an arrow. The barb doesn’t get you unless you bite.
J-Mac was the proximate cause of my putting it out there. But, in all honesty, I was responding to the willful and increasingly aggressive ignorance of many conservative Christians: I’m talking about members of my family and most of the people I knew in college, not just Web personae.
I could say much more, but I wouldn’t be addressing moderation issues.
You’ll get me sooner or later. I’m not always “innocent.”
Tom English,
No problem. We appreciate your participation!
I submitted a thread/post for possible publication after review by moderator().
As usual I’m dumb about procedure.
Thanks. RB
Robert Byers,
Your post is now published.
I got a new OP ready for publishing… though not as good as Bob’s Byers…
sorry 🙁
Given the allegation (which, afiak, has never been retracted) that I have a long and sordid history of anti-gay bigotry I’m going to recuse myself from this one.
Do you think my OP is anti-gay?
My OP is anti-evolutionary nonsense… I will leave it at that…
ETA: I don’t question homosexual tendencies among people the same way I don’t question addictive tendencies…
FWlittleIW, I don’t think J-Mac’s remark that VJ wasn’t getting a fair shake on his new thread ought to have been guanoed.
It was a complaint about lack of moderation, claiming some comments were personal attacks on Vincent. He may have a point but the rule is that such issues are raised in this thread, not elsewhere. He’s welcome to repost it here.
Thanks walto but this is not about what is fair anymore…It’s is about what moderators feel like on any particular day it was fair…
The destiny of this blog is set to be like https://pandasthumb.org/
They are lucky if they get 3 comments on an OP even with sock puppets chipping in…
BTW: You were the only one who acknowledged me as being resourceful. Your appreciation for fairness has been noted as well… 🙂
It was a pleasure “to disagree” with you…Farewell walto…
If you ever need help with someone in your close circle of friends with cancer, let me know…
New OP is ready-cheetah one!
Thanks, jmac
What rule did I break there?
Not sure. Telling someone to “fuck off” is not an attack on the person in the sense of an accusation of stupidity or dishonesty.. I think I’ve told someone in a comment of mine to fuck the fuck off before now.
Shall we have a discussion about whether it’s ok for everyone to end their posts with a happy “fuck off”? 🙂
It is to this end that the rules are established. There does not have to be a rule that explicitly states “thou shall not say ‘fuck off’ to people.”
dazz, if you don’t think someone is worth talking to why are you responding to them in the first place? I see telling someone to “fuck off” as a gratuitous insult. It doesn’t advance the conversation and actually does the opposite. It discourages conversation. There is also no explicit rule against telling someone they are “full of shit.”
It’s a judgment call.
If any of the other mods want to restore the comment I won’t be upset about it. But it wasn’t without precedent.
There was a discussion a while ago (it had to be, Lizzie participated) about whether profanity itself should be guanoable. I recall she had no objection in the right context.
On the other hand, people vary in their tolerance to profanity and we are trying to encourage dialogue. On the other hand, do we have to add another rule?
Shit – I’m turning into Emmanuel Macron.
@ dazz
We could always kick the can down the road and you could repost with an edit to “please go away”!
Personally, I would not have guanoed that post. However, I’m also not going to make a fuss about your different decision.
Yes, quite right.
I was referring to a hypothetical future response from fifth, how could you possibly miss that?
At any rate, if that’s guano worthy I wonder why you consistently ignore phoodoo’s rants and all the insults within
I’m not going to comment any further on this, no big deal… unless it becomes a trend. I suspect Mung may have a chip on his shoulder here. We’ll see
I have a lot of them. 🙂
I will try to be consistent though, and not pick out any one person or side for special treatment. Let’s hope I succeed.
OK. Que sera, sera!
I’m very pleased with Mung as a moderator. You are doing a great job
Even though you are the only one to ever guano me that I’m aware of.
My comment was a tad over the top and in hindsight I should not have posted it.
Sorry everyone
peace
And you failed to exercise good judgement, Mung.
As you concede, dazz’s post broke no rule.
Please do not do this again.
You have already exceeded my expectations.