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It is easy to get caught up, I guess I need to check it out ,thanks for the heads up.
You treat the word peace as guano when you use it to decorate unpeaceable comments. Believe it or not, I find that affectation of yours highly offensive. You’d lower the temperature in the Zone a degree or two, and help us all make less work for the mods, if you reserved peace for when you really mean it.
Given your history I have to respect your judgment.
So now you support a strictly literal application of the rules. For some silly reason I thought we had agreed that there are unwritten rules.
There was precedent. Feel free to reverse my action. I’m not the sort to think that all the moderators have to agree and that another moderator can’t reverse an action I took.
I make no promise concerning what I will do in the future if one poster tells another poster to “fuck off” even it is in anticipation of some future comment.
I nominate you as my future replacement. 🙂
Dear Admins:
I recommend removing the latest post by J-Mac, inasmuch as the inclusion of the video is evidently copyright infringement in some countries. See the screenshot below. I’ve searched for the title at YouTube, and have found that I would have to pay to watch it.
Tom English,
Thanks for pointing that out. I changed it to draft status.
You say this, and yet…
No change on my part. My position has always been that enforcement should take into account the spirit of the rules, not merely the letter. dazz’s comment broke neither.
The (three word…) comment that you cited does NOT constitute precedent. See the rules page for an explanation of why. And no, it is not anyone else’s job to clean up your mistakes.
LOL. I am not looking for any sort of undertaking, merely encouraging better behavior in the future.
DNA_Jock,
Go jerk off a hobo, you fuckwad.
Can anyone believe these are the people selected to be moderators, Jock, Alan and Neil. None of whom saw fit to guano this comment:
Nor this
Now Jock is complaining, (and Alan and Neil are agreeing) that telling people to fuck-off is perfectly fine. THIS from moderators like Alan and Neil who contend they are allowed to make up any rules they like.
Mung, I think you should ban Jock for a month just for being the biggest hapless dickhead moderator since Alan. If that is not against the rules, it certainly should be, so you are entitled to ban him.
phoodoo,
If you wish to request that certain comments be guano’ed, please do so, providing links, although at this stage the “ancient bloody history” factor probably applies.
I did read this comment of yours, and decided NOT to guano it:
I thought you were showing some signs of maturing, and being able to understand the difference between attacking a person, versus attacking the positions that they espouse.
Given your latest comment, I assume that you were actually mimicking some other comment that I must have missed while I was traveling on vacation. I don’t read every comment on this site.
That you, of all people, are complaining that people are telling others to fuck off is pretty funny.
My complaint to Mung is that he guano’ed a comment that he should not have. If you disagree, then step up to the plate and explain why you view dazz’s comment as guano-worthy. Bitching about old comments that you think should have been guano’ed isn’t really on-topic, particularly if you never asked for them to be guano’ed in the first place.
It’s free where I live… If I had known this I would’ve faxed you $5…so that you could watch too… but I gather it would have been a total waste anyways…
Fuck off.
I guess Godot is not really coming back again.
I’d been thinking about posting “Waiting for Lizzot.”
Thanks, if nominated will not run,if elected will not serve.
Lizzie said it depended on whether her Uni made her another offer she couldn’t refuse to stay on for another year. Maybe we could try a counter-offer.
Yes, that is what was taking place.
I’m going to treat vague hand-waving towards the rules page the same way I treated vague hand-waving to alleged lies to be found somewhere at Peaceful Science.
Are you saying walto’s post should not have been Guano’d either? If you say so, then I will restore dazz’s comment. If there’s nothing wrong with telling someone to “fuck off” here then walto’s comment should not have been Guano’d either.
I was hoping that pointing you to the Rules would be sufficient to enable you to figure out the difference for yourself, Mung.
I will try to explain:
walto’s (entirely guano-worthy) comment consisted, as I noted, of just three words:
It contained zero substantive content.
dazz’s comment that you guano’ed (in error, IMO) consisted of 198 words, with a high proportion of substantive content, and ended by offering dazz’s hypothetical response to his interlocutor’s next hypothetical gambit. Which was [clutches pearls] a swear word [faints].
So the one is not “a precedent” for the other. Why?
Well, a rather subtle element of
which one might easily miss,
and a huge quantity of glaringly obvious
distinguishes the two posts.
I encourage you to read up on this stuff.
Given that you think walto’s comment should have been Guano’d I’m not changing anything.
You see, I don’t see much point in Guanoing posts that lack substantive content as there are far too many of them. There is no rule that states that posts containing zero substantive content shall be sent to Guano.
Further, I think walto’s post was Guano’d not because of any absence of substantive content but rather for the content that it did contain.
We’ll have to agree to differ.
I’m pretty sure we will see some consistency at TSZ from now on… as much consistency as it can be expected from the mood of a pregnant woman… or a man, so that nobody think I discriminate other genders…
I think you misunderstand, it is not that posts are guanoed for lack of substantive content, rather it is some marginal posts can avoid being guanoed if they contain a high degree of substance .
Lucky for us.
Yes, that’s my practice.
Dear Mods/Admins:
I think that this should go to Guano. If you disagree, then we’ve got another good example of how the rules/guidelines fail.
Figured.
Thank fuck for that.
… er … species haplotype Hardy Weinberg DNA polymerase.
I have made the suggestion before that members might consider, rather than writing a comment full of substance and finishing with “BTW you’re a twat”, they might post two comments: one with the substance and another with the guano. Even better, pre-empt the moderation and delete the guano. Less work for admins! 🙂
Is there still a way of hiding posts from a poster? Even an imperfect method would be a start.
Hiding OPs would be great too, but I suspect that is not possible.
BruceS,
Blimey! I hadn’t noticed that the hide comments plugin has disappeared without trace. I’ll track down the plugin and reinstall.
ETA it is installed and enabled. The button must be obscured by a styling change.
ETA2 caught a glimpse of it when updating edited comment. Anybody able to help with tweaking the plugin style sheet?
Alan Fox,
Not exactly a web developer but will gladly give it a try
Hoping members can see the “ignore” button now. Feedback appreciated!
ETA it doesn’t work on threads that are pages rather than posts (eg: “guano” and “moderation issues”)
dazz,
Thanks, dazz. There was an option to try another style for comment display and that seems to have worked. Can you see it now?
Yes, it’s there now 🙂
I can see the button and it seems to do something in some very limited testing.
Other changes:
I notice that the name of the poster in the comments is now in italics. At the top right, it tells me who is on ignore.
The list of page numbers at the bottom of the comments list screen is now in growing font. Come to think of it, I am not sure if that list was even there before. Did it replace the previous/next links? I don’t remember.
Shall we leave it at that?
I agree with you, as does (evidently) Neil. I delayed guano-ing it because I wanted to give Mung the opportunity to do the honors. In the interests of consistency. Would have been poetic.
BruceS,
Alan Fox,
The style of the posters’ name can be fixed by adding this to styles.css
cite.fn {
color: #1982d1;
font-weight: bold;
}
The test site seems to be in a different version
span.fn {
color: #1982d1;
font-weight: bold;
}
Works for me. But you are on Europe time and I get up way too early. So let’s see what the new day brings as Americans (in inclusive sense) of more typical sleeping and working habits view the changes.
Haaaaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!
And I think that’s a silly little game to be playing and that I don’t have to play it. If you (and Neil) think a post should be sent to Guano do so.
ETA: I misinterpreted DNA_Jock’s comment, so apologies to him for that.
Thanks dazz!
no problem
So I probably next need to learn how to FEATURE and UNFEATURE a thread. I’ll see if I can figure it out on my own. 🙂
ETA: booyah!
Joe’s post originally wasn’t fit to feature, but the environment changed, and Mung adapted.
Alternatively, the trial and error method of learning worked for Mung.
🙂 – If you get it right on the first try is that trial and error?
It seems to have created its own niche.
I have a new OP waiting to be published.
Thanks jmac
Auto-linking for quoted items doesn’t seem to work when posting across thread pages. It references the current page rather than the page from whence the quote was found. This is apparently because the link lacks the entire URL, but only includes the anchor tag.
I’m not sure that there’s much we can do about this. It is a limitation of the wordpress code.
Figured as much. No biggie.