Moderation Issues (5)

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  1. Alan Fox: With regard to what? Any specific issue?

    Shame on you Alan.

    You came back from quitting to break even more rules, and try to settle even more of your deep seated grudges?

    When you said you were quitting, did it just pain you a bit too much to lose your cozy little feeling of power?

  2. phoodoo: Shame on you Alan.

    You came back from quitting to break even more rules, and try to settle even more of your deep seated grudges?

    When you said you were quitting, did it just pain you a bit too much to lose your cozy little feeling of power?

    Well, when you have some specific criticism to offer, I’ll respond.

  3. Alan Fox: Well, when you have some specific criticism to offer, I’ll respond.

    You are breaking the rules over and over. It has been pointed out to you numerous times.

    You also said you were quitting, then you only came back to punish Keiths and get your little snort of authority back.

    That’s not specific enough for you?

    Do you want me to list every moderation abuse you have committed here for the past let’s just say two years to keep it simple? Its going to be a pretty dam long post if someone would attempt to do that Alan.

    Maybe I should start an OP to begin listing some? It would make VJTorleys post look as brief as a fortune cookie quip.

  4. Alan Fox,

    You said you were quitting Alan. How long did that last?

    Why don’t you start by explaining why you had to come back?

    Is that specific enough?

  5. phoodoo:
    Alan Fox,

    You said you were quitting Alan.

    Taking a break from moderating… I agreed to remain as admin.

    How long did that last?

    About six months.

    Why don’t you start by explaining why you had to come back?

    SIWOTI syndrome. And the problem with a possibly libellous post that, due to time differences, there was nobody else available to deal with.

  6. Alan Fox: Taking a break from moderating… I agreed to remain as admin.

    Are you claiming you aren’t still making moderating decisions?

    God what an unabashed liar you are.

  7. Alan moved this comment to guano without explanation. What in the rules allows this other than Alan’s fragile ego:

    Alan Fox: Well, let’s see how things go. It’s an experiment.

    Did Lizzie say it is an experiment? Who decides how it is going, Lizzie?

    When did Lizzie announce its an experiment? Are you an experiment? I think the experiment failed.

    Alan Fox: There are admins who, from time to time and depending on who is available and what needs doing, will moderate comment threads.

    How many admins are there? How many moderators are there? Are they the same thing?

    You are out of your mind.

  8. phoodoo:
    Alan moved this comment to guano without explanation.

    Address the content of the post, not the perceived failings of the poster.
    This means that accusing others of ignorance or stupidity is off topic
    As is implying that other posters are mentally ill or demented.

    What in the rules allows this other than Alan’s fragile ego:

    See above “you are out of your mind”.

    Alan Fox: Well, let’s see how things go. It’s an experiment.

    Did Lizzie say it is an experiment?

    No, I said that. My name is appended to the comment.

    Who decides how it is going, Lizzie?

    Her site, her rules, her decision.

    When did Lizzie announce its an experiment? Are you an experiment? I think the experiment failed.

    Which one? I’m referring to Mung as admin. He has yet to fail. I’m not expecting him to.

    Alan Fox: There are admins who, from time to time and depending on who is available and what needs doing, will moderate comment threads.

    How many admins are there?

    Seven, currently.

    How many moderators are there?

    None

    Are they the same thing?

    I’ll leave you to work that one out.

    You are out of your mind.

    How can you tell?

  9. Alan Fox,

    If Lizzie didn’t say it is an experiment, why is it a fucking experiment? Because you say so? Who the hell are you to decide that?

    Alan Fox: How many moderators are there?

    None

    If there are no moderators how can you quit as a moderator?

    Look Alan, one thing keith has always been right about is that you are an atrocious moderator, that uses your position to try to get your way and punish those against you. You fuck up on a regular basis and never admit to your fuck-ups, instead you just double down by doing even more.

    Since I am not the only one who think so, I guess its not just me. Its You! You have fucked up so many times it can’t be counted. You are the primary reason that the topic is often brought up, because you suck at this job. The only good thing you have done here is quit being a moderator, which we now know was just a plain lie.

    So you compound another one of your lies by simply digging your bullshit ditch even deeper.

    You are inconsistent, illogical, dishonest, evasive, and simply incapable of defending your poor judgement. You break the rules and Lizzie’s intent for this site constantly. You lie out your ass about libel laws. You contradict yourself often in the same paragraph. When people who have the same general worldview as you always think you have failed at this job, maybe you should just listen and re-retire. Not a single person was begging you to come back.

  10. phoodoo: Since I am not the only one who think so, I guess its not just me.

    Well, I read what you write. I do note however that you (it was you, wasn’t it?) posted in some additional questions in the Squawk Box polls. They all received one vote. I assume you voted for your own questions.

  11. Alan Fox: Well, I read what you write. I do note however that you (it was you, wasn’t it?) posted in some additional questions in the Squawk Box polls. They all received one vote. I assume you voted for your own questions.

    8 People voted that the moderation was too erratic. 9 others voted that the moderation was too light. That is almost the entirety of the responses.

    Do you know how to read a poll? You are polling lower than Donald Trump.

    You have not done a good job. That you can’t admit that is also one of your flaws.

  12. Alan Fox,

    HI Alan:
    I notice you (and Neil) are posting in Peaceful Science. I’ve been lurking there and I have been impressed by the signal to noise ratio — much higher than current TSZ. However, it is early days for that blog and it is true that TSZ had a better S/N ratio in its first years as well.

    But still, perhaps it is due to different moderation policies. There seems to be less formal structure but more expectation that posters, especially new ones, will adhere to a culture of constructive, respectful posts. I think Lizzie might want to consider that difference in structure and culture in her revamp of the rules.

    By the way, mutual information as I (and Wiki) understand the term is a measure of the amount of statistical dependence of two random variables. So it needs a probability distribution, not just sequences. Covariance/correlation also measures the amount of statistical dependence but in a different way. MI and Cov each have their strengths and weaknesses.

  13. BruceS,

    Yes, I do seem to have been sucked in there. The initial visits were due to matters you may be aware of. I was also curious to see how the discourse forum works in a real setting. Not sure if I’ve been won over. My initial impression was it was a bit mad but now I’m obsessed with getting more badges. 🙂

  14. BruceS: By the way, mutual information as I (and Wiki) understand the term is a measure of the amount of statistical dependence of two random variables. So it needs a probability distribution, not just sequences. Covariance/correlation also measures the amount of statistical dependence but in a different way. MI and Cov each have their strengths and weaknesses.

    Oh, thanks. Can I quote you?

    PS, we should be doing this in Sandbox. 😉

  15. Quick heads up in case it helps. Tim McGrew has joined TSZ and his first post seems to be awaiting approval

  16. Well, that didn’t last long. I released a post so that it could appear in the Resurrection thread.

    dazz, I put a post of your in moderation while I learn how to send posts to Guano. We have new guests in that thread. Let’s keep that in mind. Thank you.

  17. Can someone please explain it to me why trolls like dazz, who contribute nothing to this blog other than trolling and calling f words, doesn’t get banned here?
    Keiths at least could make a case from time to time without lying… Dazz can’t even do that…
    I got banned at pissfulscience for being too aggressive, apparently ( I kind of wanted to but that is beyond this point).
    What or who is protecting dazz? The Spanish Constitution?
    He is one of the reasons why good quality creationists don’t want to post here…

  18. J-Mac: Can someone please explain it to me why trolls like dazz, who contribute nothing to this blog other than trolling and calling f words, doesn’t get banned here?

    Elizabeth does not approve of banning, except in extreme circumstances.

    And dazz does actually contribute significantly to the discussions, though he occasion goes a bit overboard in his reactions.

  19. Neil Rickert: And dazz does actually contribute significantly to the discussions, though he occasion goes a bit overboard in his reactions.

    Is that so?
    I think you and him share the same level of contribution…
    Congratulation!
    BTW: You made a fool of yourself, as a supposed mathematician, here and at peacefulscience. How do you live with yourself? Would you like to have my kids email you the fundamentals of the category theory that stems from the set theory?

  20. J-Mac: Would you like to have my kids email you the fundamentals of the category theory that stems from the set theory?

    I actually read Eilenberg-MacLane while in graduate school. Okay, maybe “browsed” would be more accurate. I was underwhelmed. My primary area in mathematics is functional analysis, which is a long way from category theory.

  21. Neil Rickert: I actually read Eilenberg-MacLane while in graduate school.Okay, maybe “browsed” would be more accurate.I was underwhelmed.My primary area in mathematics is functional analysis, which is a long way from category theory.

    This proves, again, that your statement about the category theory was unfounded. Now you have admitted that you have no clue what it is about, and yet, you had repeated your unfounded conclusions more than once..
    You and dazz have a lot of in common. You are both trolls but you have some privileges here… I wonder why…

  22. J-Mac: Would you like to have my kids email you the fundamentals of the category theory that stems from the set theory?

    I’m quite sure your kids are too busy replicating that interference experement in your basement, remember?

  23. J-Mac: He is one of the reasons why good quality creationists don’t want to post here…

    Out of interest, where do they post then?

  24. J-Mac:
    He is one of the reasons why good quality creationists don’t want to post here…

    Is there such a thing as a good quality creationist?

  25. i’m still dumb about making threads. However i submitted one for review.
    please review if willing.
    Thanks
    Robert Byers

  26. Dna Jock claims this post has no content. Between Alan and mini-Alan the site continues to become more absurd. Is this content-free. If so, there should be a whole lot more posts in guano:

    Vincent Torley is Gish Galloping himself into a Aussie-Japanese tsunami of absurdity parading as ‘reasonable doubt’. It’s tragicomic to witness, but he seemingly must do this in order to earn special apologetic badges among skeptics (or the site Distrusting Christianity, from which he got ‘inspired’ by the darkness to read what he read, research THE WAY he did (which Daniel has been so polite to point out) & thus attempt to snuff out the light in himself in order to ‘prove a point’ (what point isn’t the point here, apparently, or at least he hasn’t gone that far to figure it out yet).

    The Twelve saw him next – but who were they and what did they believe?”

    Who’da thunk the spiral for Vincent J. Torley, English teacher, once a PhD in philosophy, would end up here, almost craving heterodoxy in his bloviating bloggy posting? Has Nishida finally taken over his ‘western soul’ (screed against that coming soon, dripped in Lizzlie dust) with intellectual paralysis, a crisis of broken tolerance at 57?

    Well, then again, he could just write “This is admittedly speculative…”, rub some dirt on it & insist his mouth is clean again. But why would he go so far down the path to require that? ‘Who really knows other than VJT himself,’ like Neil more directly than Torley said. I agree with Neil’s sad assessment of Torley, which is likely why Torley started here, instead of elsewhere in the Light.

  27. Gregory’s post is entirely motive-mongering.
    You are welcome to try to argue otherwise.
    I gave a previous post of his a pass, because ~10% did actually address an argument, and his vituperation was directed against a moderator (albeit a moderator from the “visiting” team — a novel combination, that, but ‘moderator’ scores more than ‘team’, obviously)
    You, phoodoo, seem to have difficulty distinguishing content from insult.

  28. DNA_Jock: You, phoodoo, seem to have difficulty distinguishing content from insult.

    exhortation – an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

  29. DNA_Jock:
    Gregory’s post is entirely motive-mongering.
    You are welcome to try to argue otherwise.
    I gave a previous post of his a pass, because ~10% did actually address an argument, and his vituperation was directed against a moderator (albeit a moderator from the “visiting” team — a novel combination, that, but ‘moderator’ scores more than ‘team’, obviously)
    You, phoodoo, seem to have difficulty distinguishing content from insult.

    Your first time here?

  30. Published. And I don’t at all appreciate you jumping down my throat for trying to get some sleep.

    😉

  31. There’s an unpublished OP by Nonlin.org. I haven’t seen a request to the moderators to have it published. Is he able to publish without a moderator approval?

  32. Nonlin, like most users here, needs someone to publish for him.
    However, he may not view the pending post as ready for publication yet.

  33. I have some good news for the lovers of mutations.

    I have a new OP that finally settles the matter of random mutations..

    Please post!
    jmac

  34. There is no admin available on Friday afternoon? Maybe I should get my publishing rights back? That could wake up the snoozers crowd…lol
    Hey!? Anybody here?!

  35. It looks like you’ve been busy editing it until a few minutes ago. Are you ready for it to be published?

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