Larry Moran’s Exit Exam

Attached is Larry Moran’s exit exam for biochemistry and molecular biology. Exit Exam for Biochemistry.

I probably will not get a lot of these right on the first try, but it is a good learning experience. When I don’t know the answer, I can look it up, so this is a good chance to review important concepts.

I will provide answers I think Professor Moran wants students to give, and then I’ll provide my own answers which I think he might dock points for if he were grading. I always try to give the answer the professor is expecting even if I disagree. It shows that I am trying to understanding of what he was trying to teach. It’s not a confession of belief on my part.

For example:

21.How much of your genome is functional?

Answer I think Larry is expecting:

10%, because of the limits mutational load imposes on a genome the size of a human’s and their reproductive excess. But even the 10% number is likely high since the Muller Limit of 1 mutation/person/generation might allow even less than 10% function for the human genome.

My answer:

don’t know, neither does anyone else

Smart Arse Answer:

10% despite the fact ENCODE says 80% because ENCODE are a bunch of “ignoramuses, crooks generating piles of excrement” according to Dr. Moran’s colleague Dan Graur.

Some questions stumped me like:

3.Why can’t you have a lipid monolayer?

Eh? Doesn’t a micelle “layer” count as having a mono layer? Guess not.

I guess the answer is the hypdrophobic tails of the amphipathic phospholipids will generally tend to attach to each other, therefore such lipids are more likely to spontaneously form and remain in the bilayer configuration. But a micelle monolayer associates the hydrophobic tails too, doesn’t it?

micelle and bilayer

Another Question:

17.Why are the amino acids sequences of a typical enzyme different in mice and humans?

Answer I think Larry is expecting:

Enzymatic polymorphisms occur because in many cases differences in amino acids at certain locations (such as those outside the active site) do not require high specificity. Function can be sustained under a variety of different amino acids in certain positions, thus random mutations in the process of common descent with modification will generate polymorphisms in positions which do not affect enzymatic function.

My answer:

The polymorphisms can be due to different functional constraints such as those resulting from necessary DNA binding motifs and microRNA regulatory targets that result in non-synonymous amino acid differences, Also there are possible different functionally significant post-translationtional modifications that are amino acid specific which have not yet been detected due to the difficulty of actually measuring such modifications in all possible contexts.

Another question:

30.Why do eukaryotic genes have introns?

My textbook non-answer:

Prokaryotes have introns, but no spliceosomal introns like Eukaryotes, so I believe Dr. Moran is referring to spliceosomal introns. Honestly, I don’t recall I’ve ever gotten a good answer from evolutionists. I don’t think Lehninger even attempted an answer. Since I don’t have copy of Larry’s textbook, but only Lehninger’s, can I be excused until I can get a hold of Larry’s book? 🙂

My answer:

For multicellular eukaryotes, the introns allow more diversity in gene expression between cell types as they can act as parts of robotic arms in 3D space to position regulatory and transcriptional machinery onto genes. This can happen from introns in other gene in a cis or even trans chromosomal context. Because of histones, chromatin complexes that contain introns are also capable of information processing and storage allowing them to be manipulated according to their histone chemical state to do gene regulation in a 3D manner as shown here:

3d robot intron

For unicellular eukaryotes, I don’t have a good answer at this time (and neither do I think anyone else does), except God wanted to make other KINDS of Rube Goldberg machines.

The role of introns that are transcribed or excised is still not well understood. Primate specific Alus are indicated to use introns to make circular dsRNAs that appear important in alternative splicing. Until high throughput methods emerge to sequence proteomes in large scale and detect alternative splices, post translational modifications, glyco conjugation, etc. the role of introns may not be evident to the extent they may effect these (especially alternative splicing).

Papers on the function of introns have been published that list even more roles for introns.

But here is the rest of the exam. I’ll put some answers out in the comment section. Some answers will have to wait until after I finish this semester’s biochemistry evening class at the NIH. 🙂 Anyone else can weigh in with their answers.

1.Where do non-photosynthetic chemoautotrophs get their energy?
2.What is a typical Gibbs free energy change for a metabolic reaction inside a cell?
3.Why can’t you have a lipid monolayer?
4.Why is DNA supercoiled?
5.Which pathway evolved first; glycolysis or glucoenogenesis?
6.Why is methionine an essential amino acid in humans but glutamate is not?
7.Can humans fix carbon dioxide?
8.What are the end products of photosynthesis?
9.How do you create a protonmotive force?
10.How do some species survive without a citric acid cycle?
11.Why is some DNA replication discontinuous?
12.Why does E. coli need so many molecules of RNA polymerase?
13.Why is the ribosome so big and complex?
14.Why are there six codons for arginine but only one for tryptophan?
15.Why is Levinthal’s paradox not a paradox?
16.Why does DNA rich in G/C denature at a higher temperature than A/T-rich DNA?
17.Why are the amino acids sequences of a typical enzyme different in mice and humans?
18.If protein folding is spontaneous then why do cells need chaperones?
19.Why do acids like acetic acid and formic acid have different pKas?
20.Why did you need to learn about the Michaelis-Menten equation?
21.How much of your genome is functional?
22.Why is ATP not an effective allosteric regulator of enzyme activity?
23.What is flux?
24.Why isn’t it correct to say that ATP is an energy-rich compound?
25.What was the point of learning about reduction potentials?
26.Why are transcription and translation separated in eukaryotic cells?
27.Why did it take so long to evolve an oxygen evolving complex in photosynthesis?
28.Why is fat better than sugar for storing energy?
29.Why do we need cholesterol?
30.Why do eukaryotic genes have introns?
31.What’s the point of homologous recombination?
32.How can bacteria survive without mitochondria?

116 thoughts on “Larry Moran’s Exit Exam

  1. 7.Can humans fix carbon dioxide?

    No. They cannot fix carbon dioxide on a net basis because they are not capable of photosynthesis or other chemical pathways that can fix carbon dioxide.

  2. 29.Why do we need cholesterol?

    Cholesterols are part of the reactants to create various hormones.

    Also cholesterols provide structural support for systems such as lipid rafts and other parts of lipid membranes.

  3. 28.Why is fat better than sugar for storing energy?

    Fats have higher average energy density at 37 kJ/g whereas sugars have an average energy density of 17 kJ/g. Also fats, being hydrophobic can be stored in anhydrous environments whereas sugars bind to water and hence in the hydrated form have their energy density diluted. Thus fatty acids can hold six times the unit energy than sugars per unit mass when hydration is considered.

    The reason for the difference is primarily

  4. stcordova,

    No. They cannot fix carbon dioxide on a net basis because they are not capable of photosynthesis or other chemical pathways that can fix carbon dioxide.

    They can plant trees 🙂

  5. 32.How can bacteria survive without mitochondria?

    That’s a trick question. Bacteria are mitochondria.

  6. What was the point of learning about reduction potentials?

    So i could impress good-looking women.

  7. 22.Why is ATP not an effective allosteric regulator of enzyme activity?

    😯

    ????

    It may not be effective for some enzyme activity, but it is for others. What am I missing?

    https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Structural_Biochemistry/Protein_function/Allosteric_Regulation

    One example of this is the products of ATP hydrolysis which play a major role in balancing the flow of traffic between anabolic and catabolic pathways depending on their effects on key enzymes. For example, ATP binds to several catabolic enzymes allosterically which lowers their affinity for substrate and as a result inhibits their activity while ADP acts as an activator of the same enzyme. So if ATP production lags behind its use, ADP accumulates and activate these key enzymes that speed up catabolism, producing more ATP. If the supply exceeds demand however, catabolism slows down as ATP molecules accumulate and bind to enzymes, inhibiting them. In this way, allosteric enzymes control the rates of key reaction in metabolic pathways.

  8. 8.What are the end products of photosynthesis?

    Sugar and water.

    Specifically the general reaction is, with the end product on the right hand side of the equation:

    6C02 + 6H20 -> C6H12O6 + 6O2

  9. 11.Why is some DNA replication discontinuous?

    One strand (the lagging strand) must be grown in short segments in a direction opposite the moving replication fork. This is because the polymerase grows strands only in the direction of 5′-to-3′, so small Okazaki fragments are duplicated discontinuously so the polymerase can move in it’s natural direction (5′ to 3′)but opposite the direction of the replicaiton fork for short stretches that define the Okazaki fragments.

  10. 2.What is a typical Gibbs free energy change for a metabolic reaction inside a cell?

    Delta-G is typically negative.

  11. 11. Why is some DNA replication discontinuous?

    There are no discontinuities! Are you trying to give ammo to the cretinists?

  12. 3. Why can’t you have a lipid monolayer?

    With evolution, all things are possible.

    Lipid monolayers at an air–water interface can be compressed laterally and reach high surface density. Beyond a certain threshold, they become unstable and collapse. Lipid monolayer collapse plays an important role in the regulation of surface tension at the air–liquid interface in the lungs.

    http://www.pnas.org/content/105/31/10803.abstract

    Lipid monolayers form the main structural component (≈97% by weight) of lung surfactant at the gas-exchange interface in the lung alveoli (1) and constitute the outer layer of tear film in the eyes (2).

  13. 5.Which pathway evolved first; glycolysis or glucoenogenesis?

    The answer I think Larry is expecting:

    Glycolysis evolved first because gycolysis is the first step to making pyruvate which is needed for the full metabolic degredation of glucose. Furthermore, pyruvate is the starting point for the glucogenesis cycle.

    My answer:

    Glycolysis was created not evolved. The glycolysis cycle requires enzymes, so how are the enzymes synthesized in the first place if lots of other stuff doesn’t already exist. Enzymes in the cycle include:

    hexokinase
    phosophohexose isomerase
    phospho-fructokinase-1
    aldolase
    triose phosphate isomerase
    glyceryde phosphate dehydrogenase
    phospho glycerate kinase
    phospho glycerate mutase
    enolase
    pyruvate kinase

    Notwithstanding, Larry’s criticism of Ann Gauger over dehydrogenase, evolving this seems kind of hard because of chicken and egg paradoxes on so many levels.

    But supposing something did evolve, it would be glycolysis for the reasons given above.

  14. 1.Where do non-photosynthetic chemoautotrophs get their energy?

    Inoraganic sources like Hydrogen or Hydrogen Sulfide, occasionally organic sources like methane.

    I didn’t really know the specifics of this till I researched the question. I can see its relevance to the OOL question.

  15. 4. Why is DNA supercoiled?

    The design reason or the “it just happened, that’s all” reason?

    9. How do you create a protonmotive force?

    The design reason or the “it just happened, that’s all” reason?

    12. Why does E. coli need so many molecules of RNA polymerase?

    The design reason or the “it just happened, that’s all” reason?

    13. Why is the ribosome so big and complex?

    The design reason or the “it just happened, that’s all” reason?

    Why questions assume an underlying intelligibility. And the rather obvious implication is an underlying intelligence.

  16. 26. Why are transcription and translation separated in eukaryotic cells?

    Because transcription and translation are separated in all cells.

    What a stupid question.

  17. Mung,

    Because transcription and translation are separated in all cells.

    By separated he may mean inside vs outside the nucleus of eukaryotic cells. The nuclear pore complex can flag a mis coded RNA me thinks.

  18. We watch a bunch of grown me(the attackers on science) make fools of themselves. Please continue.

  19. Mung,

    Right, why.

    What does a why question mean in evolution? To most evolutionists the only answer to why questions is, well, it must have given a selection advantage.

    To Larry Moran there is another option. Because it wasn’t enough of a selection disadvantage not to.

  20. Mung,

    I’m just wondering what happened to all the defenders of science.

    I’m just wondering what the point is.

  21. Larry Moran:
    I love watching IDiots pretend they understand biochemistry.

    I love watching evos cower when it comes to supporting the claims of evolutionism

  22. Larry Moran:
    I love watching IDiots pretend they understand biochemistry.

    What I love the most is watching arrogant, deceitful, pretentious, ostentatious, ego driven quacks who present their own delusions as facts.
    As one once said: “…It’s not a lie, if you believe it…”

  23. J-Mac: What I love the most is watching arrogant, deceitful, pretentious, ostentatious, ego driven quacks who present their own delusions as facts.
    As one once said: “…It’s not a lie, if you believe it…”

    I love the irony of reading you write this.

  24. phoodoo:
    Dr. Moron,

    When are you going to explain to Mung why your very first question is asking about a “non-photosynthetic chemoautotrophs” when all chemoautotrophs are by definition not using photosynthesis?

    Its like saying, how many non-arthropod giraffe species are native to Africa. Wait, its even more Moronic than that, its like asking how many organic non-arthropod ungulate type giraffe species are native to Africa?

    You are a teacher, right Mr. Moron?

    Unfortunately for you phoo, not a miracle worker

  25. Mung:
    26. Why are transcription and translation separated in eukaryotic cells?

    Because transcription and translation are separated in all cells.

    What a stupid question.

    Is that the design reason?

  26. Ah, the delicate art of the Gotcha.

    Speaking of which, on micelles, if you added new phospholipid units to the ball one by one, at what point would it flip from being a ‘monolayer’ to being a bilayer? Conversely, how complete is the cross-sectional diagram of the bilayer?

  27. Larry Moran:

    I love watching IDiots pretend they understand biochemistry.

    Since you love watching us pretend, you can at least tell us if our pretend answers are right, like:

    21.How much of your genome is functional?

    10%, because of the limits mutational load imposes on a genome the size of a human’s and their reproductive excess. But even the 10% number is likely high since the Muller Limit of 1 mutation/person/generation might allow even less than 10% function for the human genome.

    or

    17.Why are the amino acids sequences of a typical enzyme different in mice and humans?

    Enzymatic polymorphisms occur because in many cases differences in amino acids at certain locations (such as those outside the active site) do not require high specificity. Function can be sustained under a variety of different amino acids in certain positions, thus random mutations in the process of common descent with modification will generate polymorphisms in positions which do not affect enzymatic function.

  28. Allan Miller:

    I’m just wondering what the point is.

    I want to see how well a creationist can pretend he understands evolution and biochemistry according to the gospel of Larry.

    What’s your answer to this question?

    17.Why are the amino acids sequences of a typical enzyme different in mice and humans?

    I made up the following answer. I just pulled it out of the air from imitating the usual storyline of Darwinists. What’s wrong with my pretend answer?

    Enzymatic polymorphisms occur because in many cases differences in amino acids at certain locations (such as those outside the active site) do not require high specificity. Function can be sustained under a variety of different amino acids in certain positions, thus random mutations in the process of common descent with modification will generate polymorphisms in positions which do not affect enzymatic function.

  29. Moved a comment to Guano. Calling other people names, no matter how cleverly you think you’re doing it, is against the rules.

  30. stcordova,

    I made up the following answer. I just pulled it out of the air from imitating the usual storyline of Darwinists. What’s wrong with my pretend answer?

    More to the point, I think, what do you think is wrong with it? Your preferred answer contained an awful lot of appeal to undiscovered constraint – ‘can be due […] possible [ …] not yet been detected***’. Enzymatic differences can be observed at every taxonomic level – including within the same organism, due to misreads and contributions from both alleles in heterozygotes, so there is reason to suppose that some component of the mouse-human difference is due to that. You can’t rule out differential constraint as well, so a complete answer would allow for both.

    *** … I think the OoL can be due to possible things that have not yet been detected too, if you find that kind of reasoning convincing!

  31. Regarding micelles, apparently I wasn’t the only one who found this question troubling:

    3.Why can’t you have a lipid monolayer?

    Over at Larry’s Blog, Bryan challenged Larry:

    http://sandwalk.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-exit-exam-for-biochemistry-and.html?showComment=1483466307876#c4180617821815237505

    #3 is troublesome, as phospholipid monolayers (which I assume is what you meant by “lipid monolayer”) exist both artificially and biologically. Phospholipid monolayers are made for a variety of research purposes (usually by layering lipid micelles in an aqueous phase onto a hydrophobic surface). Moreover, a phospholipid monolayer is what surrounds the lipoprotein complexes which are used for lipid/cholesterol transport in our blood (e.g. HDL, LDL) – these essentially solubilize lipids and sterols by surrounding them with a monolayer of phospholipids; the hydrophilic heads point out (blood-exposed) providing solubility, while the hydrophobic tails point inwards (lipid-exposed).

    That’s actually what I thought at first when I saw the question, and when I saw Bryan’s response, I thought to myself, “friggin right!”

    How does Larry respond:

    Larry:

    Hmmm … I didn’t think of that. The question should probably be changed to: “Why can’t you have cell membranes made of lipid MONOlayers?”

    How’s that for critical thinking on my part, bwahaha! 🙂

  32. stcordova,

    You missed my point in your rush to brag. Why are micelles monolayers? Would a micelle with too many subunits to be spherical still be a monolayer? It’s a simple question of topology.

  33. phoodoo: Or just play by Patrick’s rules?You know, Fat Patrick, the Idiot child abuser?

    You are playing by his rules no matter how much you complain.The more you break the rules ,the easier it is to dismiss your complaints.

  34. Allan Miller:

    You missed my point in your rush to brag. Why are micelles monolayers? Would a micelle with too many subunits to be spherical still be a monolayer? It’s a simple question of topology.

    The layer of lipids on the micelle mono-layered isn’t, we don’t have bilayered micelles do we? 🙄

    In any case, the issue is moot now, Larry is effectively withdrawing the original question and replacing it with:

    Larry Moran:

    The question should probably be changed to: “Why can’t you have cell membranes made of lipid MONOlayers?”

  35. Regarding monolayers, someone at Larry’s blog also pointed out something related to this:

    In some archaea the lipid bilayer is replaced by a monolayer, in which tails of two independent phospholipid molecules are fused into a single molecule with two polar heads. This fusion may make their membranes more rigid and better able to resist harsh environments. Ferroplasma is an example—this organism’s survival in its highly acidic habitat is abetted by such tail fusion. Archea lipid tails are chemically distinct from other organisms.

    http://eol.org/info/457

    Yikes, Larry. Talk about confusing your poor students.

  36. colewd: By separated he may mean inside vs outside the nucleus of eukaryotic cells.

    You are probably correct sir. But another case of asking for a design reason.

    Can you imagine giving the stock evolutionist answer to all these questions and still getting a passing grade?

  37. Regarding this question,

    22.Why is ATP not an effective allosteric regulator of enzyme activity?

    As in what reaction? Larry has something in mind, obviously, and I don’t know what answer he is fishing for.

    Here is an example of ATP being an allosteric regulator of enzyme activity:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphofructokinase_1

    PFK1 is the most important control site in the mammalian glycolytic pathway.
    ….
    Finally, PFK1 is allosterically inhibited by PEP, citrate, and ATP. Phosphoenolpyruvic acid is a product further downstream the glycolytic pathway. Although citrate does build up when the Krebs Cycle enzymes approach their maximum velocity, it is questionable whether citrate accumulates to a sufficient concentration to inhibit PFK-1 under normal physiological conditions[citation needed]. ATP concentration build up indicates an excess of energy and does have an allosteric modulation site on PFK1 where it decreases the affinity of PFK1 for its substrate.

    PFK1 is allosterically activated by a high concentration of AMP, but the most potent activator is fructose 2,6-bisphosphate, which is also produced from fructose-6-phosphate by PFK2. Hence, an abundance of F6P results in a higher concentration of fructose 2,6-bisphosphate (F-2,6-BP). The binding of F-2,6-BP increases the affinity of PFK1 for F6P and diminishes the inhibitory effect of ATP. This is an example of feedforward stimulation as glycolysis is accelerated when glucose is abundant.[2]

    Help me Allan, help me. I’m stuck on this question.

    You can google for yourself this phrase:

    “ATP not an effective allosteric regulator ”

    I get three hits, and guess where they pretty much all land?

  38. stcordova,

    The layer of lipids on the micelle mono-layered isn’t, we don’t have bilayered micelles do we?

    You missed it again. Take a ‘monolayered’ micelle. Stick your thumb in it on one side, then mould it round until it forms a spherical cavity, with just a single pore (itself edged in phospholipid ‘heads’). What have you got? A bilayer. Where did the ‘second layer’ come from?

    Point being, a bilayered membrane is just a deformed micelle.

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