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Intelligent Design Creationism only exists in the minds of the willfully ignorant.
Nice own goal…
LoL! At least I made a grand effort to learn about evolutionism by reading Darwin, Dawkins, Mayr, Gould- hundreds of evolutionary biologists. Not to mention textbooks, which really just give a cursory nod and very general over-view because their focus is on the actual biology.
I know what it has and doesn’t have. OTOH you think your belligerent agenda is enough to overthrow everything I and others have been saying for decades.
As I keep saying- It is very telling that when all you have to do to silence ID is to step up and find support for the claims of your position, you take the tact of a rank amateur and jealous loser.
The following addresses the post and the poster:
LoL! At least I made a grand effort to learn about evolutionism by reading Darwin, Dawkins, Mayr, Gould- hundreds of evolutionary biologists. Not to mention textbooks, which really just give a cursory nod and very general over-view because their focus is on the actual biology.
I know what it has and doesn’t have. OTOH you think your belligerent agenda is enough to overthrow everything I and others have been saying for decades.
As I keep saying- It is very telling that when all you have to do to silence ID is to step up and find support for the claims of your position, you take the tact of a rank amateur and jealous loser.
And Patrick can eat it
Stop being such an ass
LoL! At least I made a grand effort to learn about evolutionism by reading Darwin, Dawkins, Mayr, Gould- hundreds of evolutionary biologists. Not to mention textbooks, which really just give a cursory nod and very general over-view because their focus is on the actual biology.
I know what it has and doesn’t have. OTOH you think your belligerent agenda is enough to overthrow everything I and others have been saying for decades.
As I keep saying- It is very telling that when all you have to do to silence ID is to step up and find support for the claims of your position, you take the tact of a rank amateur and jealous loser.
Yes, OM, you should as you are useless here. 😛
It’s hard to keep all the Creationist liars for Jesus straight.
Sal, you pride yourself on being so clever as a gambler, but you are in fact, a moron.
Five hundred heads in a row is exactly as likely or unlikely as any other specific sequence of 500 tosses. Think, for a moment, of the sequence rather than of the count.
What makes 500 heads seem special is that it specifies a sequence.
Any other specified sequence would be just as likely.
petrushka,
Yes, petrushka and that has been covered many times, too. Hitting any PRE-specified sequence of 500 fair coin flips is all the same probability. And the odds of hitting one sequence is one, given 500 fair coin tosses.
Sal provided an example and it is used because of its ease of use, ie its simplistic description. That’s it. Why you had to focus on that and try to win imaginary points shows your true colors:
You sir, are in fact the moron
Adapa,
Do us all a favor and stop lying.
You visit Hunter’s site daily as the (previously banned THorton) now Ghostrider.
Notice adapa’s hypocrisy here. He wont dare attempt his shinanagans here. His ass’d be grass in a heartbeat.
So, looks like Adapa/ghostrider/Timothy Horton is actually partial to Hunter’s site, contrary to what he’d have folks on this board think. oooh, the cyber-rattling, ether- graphitti scrawling one can do there.
you all are so f*&^kin’ predictable. what a hoot!
and maladjusted it seems. i mean who would even attempt to justify eating strange animals. We don’t do it for obvious reasons in the West.
Good sanitation is a prerequisite for good health. This is not even controversial. How do we know when we’ve achieved good sanitation? Where are the diseases? They’re gone. OOOOOhhhh, that’s it then. We got it. We are good to go.
What’s happens when we stop eating fatty, sugary foods? Oooooh, lookie that. Diabetes, its gone. Heart disease. It’s gone.
What happens when we stop drinking whiskey all day? Lookie there. Alchoholism is gone. Cirrhosis of the liver. Gone.
What happens when we stop eating meat, processed food, over-cooked food. Cancer, bye-bye. No, but we’d rather fight the good fight against that evil cancer, rather than give up our barbequed ribs, doritios,and spam.
It’s looking more and more like you all are just being plain obtuse. For obvious reasons.
But that is to be expected from pseudo-skeptics.
This is the same keiths that lied twice. (moderator, its easy to prove the below statement is a lie. So yes, I am accusing keiths of an outright lie. You want supporting evidence, just let me know)
This is the 3rd time I will correct you keiths.
It is you keiths that claims God allow dogs to eat babies heads. And I corrected you by asserting that no, it is the parents that are not preventing dogs from eating babies. God has nothing to do with it. Responsibility lies with parenting, not God doing cleanup duty all day, everyday.
and yes, the reason why God won’t step in to wipe our asses every f*&6kin’ day is precisely that it would be pointless to give humans such a big brain and find out that you (God) would have to provide round-the-clock intensive care to each individual.
People like keiths just don’t want to go about the business of learning self-reliance, self-discipline, selfless support for the weaker, less intelligent, selfless support to the sick and dying, teaching your children yourselves (instead of sub-contracting it out to nannies and public schools because we have a litany of excuses not to teach our own kids).
The keiths’s of this world just want it to all go away so they can have a good time, responsibility-free living, discipline-free living, care-free living.
And damn to hell, God is not playing ball. Damn that non-existent immanensce for making life so difficult.
Hmmm. Not the sharpest tool in the pseudo-skeptic bag.
Need guano cleanup in Finch-Beak thread
By the way, Steve, this babyish way of swearing is one of the least nice things about you.
It’s like doing only anal penetration so you can pretend you’re both virgins for your christian white wedding.
Grow a spine!
Swear if you want, don’t if you don’t want to. But for god’s sake, don’t pretend to be more of a delicate lily white flower than you really are.
“I thought it might be fun” to expose myself as intentionally, purposefully, disenchantingly ignorant (without knowledge)? (And then try to tempt atheists to agree at TAMSZ – theatheistmiserableskeptialzone). That’s a rather ignominious self-admission by a Jewish-American philosopher. (And that doesn’t even deserve an exclamation point – so sad!)
Yawn. Boring skeptic (or is it just Jan?). Better to return to more intelligent, more caring, more insightful people, the vast majority of whom are thankfully not self-aggrandized ‘radical agnostics.’ Or instead choose to wallow in ‘Kantian naturalism’ as if backwards betrayal of one’s ancestors’ worldview (religious Judaism, because ‘Science’ is agnostic?!? .. and this has nothing to do with worldview?!) is a far-fetched ‘credit’ to the home-base ideologue who posted this thread.
What a strange USA philosophistic phenomenon of attempting to champion ignorance, lack of knowledge, lack of care, lack of class, lack of vision, heart, soul! : (( Wow – Lizzie made a great agnostic-confused playhouse? … then disappeared, of course. Waste of knowledge, credibility & home.
Ok, but granted he doesn’t ‘know’ that, and sadly doesn’t seem to want to ‘know’, to grow intelligently & spiritually anywhere but down into his own radical agnostic egoism. He’ll just continue to try to teach intellectual wishy-washiness (as if that’s somehow ‘sexy’!), avoiding worldview desperately as immature human. So please at least take pity on his willful embrace of human oblivion, anti-knowledge & anti-religion.
It appears to be the will of the colluder that’s the problem here. What we don’t know is if KN believes in ‘free will’ or not. He will decide to answer or not, without realizing he is actually deciding or not? Such a silly pretentious position!
Won’t the ‘skeptics’ (atheists) here acknowledge the ultimate despair of KN being ‘cut off’ by his Creator (in which he no longer if he ever did believe)? No, that’s apparently not allowed at TAMSZ. : (
“agnosticism is itself the basis of your exercise.” – Erik
Let’s be absolutely clear: KN WANTS this. He wants ‘a-gnostic-ism.’ Perhaps depends for his (in)(s)(anity) on it. It seems so intentionally shallow, horizontal, anti-social, anti-global, full of ultimate despair. = ((
The Chinese, Indian, Russian, S. African, Brazilian, Spanish, German colleagues I met with yesterday at an academic conference were real people, not so disgustingly a-human (dehumanising) as KN’s ‘radical self-destruction/agnosticism’ appears to be. KN’s language is so ugly in face-to-face dialogue. Perhaps that’s why he home-bases here among the flat (ant6i-)souls?
It’s astonishing that anyone could wish such sadness of anti-religion (denying one’s own blood & heart!) as the author of this thread has willfully (without will?) unnecessarily embraced. Foolishness personified by a Jewish atheist – anyone wish to respond? Very sad, hopefully limited impact on students’ humble, ‘knowing’ faith.
Mostly ‘classy’ atheist scum at TAMSZ ; )
Ironically they don’t seem to ‘know’ they’re ‘(un)classy’ cuz, well, ya know, agnosticism, wink ; )
Don’t just be ‘skeptical,’ have some courage to stare oblivion & (ultimate) meaninglessness (not Solomon, but rather perky Nietzsche!) directly in the face. The usually awkward unrepentant self-centered laughter of atheists when vertical conversations ensue is glaringly evident to everyone seemingly except the atheist himself or herself. Sad USAmerica ideologists with big blunt ‘agnostic’ trucks!
That is false. Does ‘skepticism’ entail being a moron?
So? Should we thank you? Because I don’t think we should thank you. I think we should point out how you are biased. Wasn’t there a post that accused Patrick of being no better than Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot?
keiths,
Argument? What argument? You are the one who is suggesting that it can be possible for life to be BOTH a series of nature unguided random mutations that just so happen to accidentally coalesce into conscious intelligence, AND also be a computer simulation designed by a master race.
Why do I need to argue that Musk is probably not as much of a nonsensical lunatic as you?
No he’s talking about that other computer simulation, dumbass.
I like how all you nutjobs are willing to concede that there can be evidence for a computer simulated world, but that same evidence can’t be used to presume a supernatural creator.
I repeat, nutjobs.
fifthmonarchyman,
fifthmonarchyman,
No, apparently to the whack jobs, there is a REAL world with stars and planets and people, but this one just isn’t it. They just thought it would be fun to make their exact same world on a computer.
Nutjobs all the way down.
And the stats for post-Atheism show that Atheism is a minority position held by idiots.
So? That’s not a reason to be a bigot.
I never promised it. You’re making stuff up like you usually do.
Patrick,
Why are you talking about moderation in this thread, you stupid twit?
But as a social experiment this is one of the funniest on the internet it has to be said. The moderator is the most divisive and hated character on the site, and the site’s own creator can’t even stand to come here. What a clusterfuck.
Barry must be laughing his ass off.
You wildly underestimate yourself, dipshit. But hate is the wrong word. You are this tragic yet comedic figure who gets everything wrong.
Gaydar is an acquired trait. 🙂
Or, perhaps, it is “the largest gay dating site and best place online to chat with other men instantly.”
Which leaves out keiths and Richardtughes. They wouldn’t be caught dead being a man.
Still dodging. Got offered a test. Visit Barry so you can man up.
Create an OP. Post a link. Visit Barry so you can man up.
Richardthughes bows out.
$10,000.00
Cowards hate facts.
Your cash contribution to date is $0.00. A cowardly amount.
keiths,
Another keiths dodge and squirm.
keiths,
Furthermore, the reason you say writing code, as opposed to “A” code is simply because the word is being used a a plural, you dipshit.
phoodoo:
I didn’t say they were “two completely different concepts”. I said
Learning is really painful for you, isn’t it?
Rumraket,
You are truly a skeptic Rumraket.
Now I see why you identify as such. I have rarely seen anyone lie as profusely as you.
Kantian Naturalist,
This is so stupid I don’t know how to respond. Its good for a chuckle though. But let’s take a look anyway for fun:
So first we know that hunter gathers figured out what to eat through trial and error, and passed on this knowledge. Really!!! Wow, who’d have thought? I assumed they all died. Of course since this is exactly what I wrote about needing book or a corporation to tell them what was safe to eat, I guess that is exactly what I fucking said, pignose!
Secondly, when did I say domesticate animals will eat anything put in front of them? In fact I said exactly the opposite! I said most animals already know what is safe and not safe to eat, except humans! How could you royally fuck that up so bad and then accuse my post of being stupid?
Then to top it all off, you throw in as an aside, that modern city dwellers probably aren’t very good at knowing what is safe to eat. WOW! Why don’t you go back to the part I wrote about needing a book or a corporation! Holy shit, you agree that we are bad at it, but then argue that we are not bad at it, because at one time hunter gatherers needed to tell their kin what was safe (because otherwise people would be too stupid to know what to eat!)
So let’s get this clear, keiths says intelligence was a necessary evolutionary step for higher animals to learn what was safe to eat, and I counter that virtually all animals know what is safe to eat no matter how intelligent or unintelligent, and in fact humans are the worst, and you agree with all this, and call my post stupid.
So do you use your pignose or a book to know which mushrooms to eat, pignose?
walto,
I responded to the relevant part.
You can write an entire dissertation on how Patrick is critical of government and wants to limit its power, but that doesn’t support your claim.
You claim that he’s advocating for the dissolution of US federal, state, and local governments and their replacement by treaties.
He isn’t, as this quote shows. Meanwhile, you can’t supply a single quote in support of your assertion.
You’re making stuff up again. Why must you keep doing that?
What Salvador Cordova has revealed of himself over the years is strongly indicative of psychopathy. None of us can tag him with a psychiatric disorder. But anyone with scrambled eggs for brains is suspicious of someone who boasts of having been banned from a casino; who has much to say about leaching profits from the markets, and nothing to say about adding value to the economy; and who lately describes himself as a hedge fund manager.
Are some of the investors in the hedge fund Christians who formed syndicates to bankroll blackjack players? It doesn’t matter so much what the answer is as that the question, when dealing with Salvador Cordova, is perfectly reasonable to ask.
When I watched Holy Rollers, a couple years ago, I thought repeatedly of Salvador. He avoids saying that he was one of the subjects. So I can say, without it being a direct attack on him, that the Christians in the movie revealed themselves to be deplorably “flexible” in their morals. It says plenty about Salvador to note that, rather than deplore the Holy Rollers, he emphasizes how much they won, and brags about being acknowledged in the credits of the documentary about them.
In my opinion, Salvador Cordova is to be shunned. Those of you who think you are cleverly nailing him down on technical issues are not as clever as you think. You’re teaching him how to talk a better line of bullshit. You’re making him a star in certain circles.
Salvador has, interacting with me at the Access Research Network, silently edited his claims after I’ve debunked them, and proceeded to cast me as a dope for getting him wrong. Others here have had similar experiences with him, and have called on him to apologize for his gross misconduct. To my knowledge, he’s never breathed a hint of acknowledgement that he has a long history of sleaze at other sites.
So how is this relevant to the opening post? Salvador is celebrating the unethical conduct of Christians. The post is all the more sick for the absence of any sign that its author is aware of the sickness. And the sickness of it is no shock to those of us who’ve long known Salvador.
Tom,
Is Sal actually “a star in certain circles”?
My question is genuine, not rhetorical. He isn’t a star at UD, but I don’t spend enough time at other creationist or ID hangouts to judge whether he has “star” status there.
Colewd, liar, stop reading titles of sections and read the actual document. The whole thing, for comprehension. Twice.
You are an arsehole and no mistake!
…says Alan, whose ears sting in self-recognition at any mention of dishonesty.
But you’re still an arsehole.
Alan,
At least you acknowledge the self-recognition. That’s progress.
Remember the
toothirony.No, Actually what I thought was, THIS IS WHAT HE FUCKING POSTED.
Its the same bullshit as you. Post a link, claim it says what you say it does. Then expect people to find its relevance to what you want to say.
“Here is a link to something, which has a link to something else, and somewhere in there I claim it says something important…”
Go read the Encyclopedia Britannica Keiths, it will show what an idiot you are.
Supreme retards like phoodoo needs to read my post. Well scratch that, he needs to read basic science first. No scratch that too. He needs to learn elementary logic and critical thinking. And how to dispense with a conclusion before setting on an investigation. But I’m afraid he is incapable of such a move.