Dembski – Disillusion with fundamentalism

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A very interesting blog post by William Dembski:

The old Dembski returns — the one was an old earth creationist before his run-in with Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

I don’t find this surprising.  I never really believed his capitulation to the fundamentalists.  It always looked like saving his job rather than changing his beliefs.

Still, I found the post quite interesting.  And maybe it will give some folk something better to do than flinging poo at Dawkins’ software.

72 thoughts on “Dembski – Disillusion with fundamentalism”

  1. When I look at the link you provided, it shows declines in the percentage in every Christian category, except for a negligible uptick in Jehovah’s Witness.

  2. petrushka: When I look at the link you provided, it shows declines in the percentage in every Christian category, except for a negligible uptick in Jehovah’s Witness.

    The decline is in the percentage of the population. Evangelicals ie Conservative Christians increased in total numbers.

    peace

  3. Joe Felsenstein:

    I have heard that young people are flooding out of the fundamentalist churches.

    To quote Barry Arrington:

    We are losing badly.

    NOTE:
    Barry isn’t technically a fundamentalist, but his comment still applies.

  5. The Barna Group has an interesting metric for a category they misleadingly call “post-Christian”:

    Post-Christian Metrics

    To qualify as “post-Christian,” individuals had to meet 60% or more of the following factors (nine or more). “Highly post-Christian” individuals meet 80% or more of the factors (12 or more of these 15 criteria).

    Do not believe in God
    Identify as atheist or agnostic
    Disagree that faith is important in their lives
    Have not prayed to God (in the last year)
    Have never made a commitment to Jesus
    Disagree the Bible is accurate
    Have not donated money to a church (in the last year)
    Have not attended a Christian church (in the last year)
    Agree that Jesus committed sins
    Do not feel a responsibility to “share their faith”
    Have not read the Bible (in the last week)
    Have not volunteered at church (in the last week)
    Have not attended Sunday school (in the last week)
    Have not attended religious small group (in the last week)
    Do not participate in a house church (in the last year)

    The statistics are striking:

    As you might expect, the data show some striking generational differences when it comes to secularization. The pattern is indisputable: The younger the generation, the more post-Christian it is. Nearly half of Millennials (48%) qualify as post-Christian compared to two-fifths of Gen X-ers (40%), one-third of Boomers (35%) and one-quarter of Elders (28%).

  6. Mung:
    And the stats for post-Atheism show that Atheism is a minority position held by idiots.

    Wrong epithet, Mung. Not “idiots”.

  8. Funny that Patrick doesn’t think that calling Salvador “a fundy” is an ad hominem.

    Or perhaps ad hominem attacks aren’t against the rules.

  9. Patrick: Address the ideas not the people.

    Another made up #PatrickRule.

    No basis in objective empirical evidence or anything else.

    #ThePatrickZone #OneTrickPony

  13. Mung, you’re relegated to the roll of comedy. When we do anything remotely technical, you don’t get it / fuck it up. Will you be taking Joe F. up on his test?

    Thought not.

  14. Richardthughes presents yet another content-less challenge. Lack of a target must suck.

  15. Content-less = reminding Mung he’s dodging an actual empirical test. Your brain on religion, folks.

  18. Mung:
    Funny that Patrick doesn’t think that calling Salvador “a fundy” is an ad hominem.

    Or perhaps ad hominem attacks aren’t against the rules.

    I believe that Sal has self-identified as a fundamentalist. If he hasn’t, I agree with you that it’s an insult.

    Your thoughts, Sal?

  19. Patrick: I believe that Sal has self-identified as a fundamentalist.

    So? You’ve self-identified with someone who desires to defend attacks again people who have only one thing in common, that they hold a lack of belief. You don’t see the difference, but that would require Insight. Discretion. Intelligence. Discernment.

    I can attack atheists all I like, because the only thing they hold in common is a lack of belief. So by attacking an atheist it is simply not possible that I am attacking any belief they hold. You’re simply too stupid to see the inevitable result of your position.

    Stupid atheists.

  21. Mung: I can attack atheists all I like, because the only thing they hold in common is a lack of belief. So by attacking an atheist it is simply not possible that I am attacking any belief they hold. You’re simply too stupid to see the inevitable result of your position.

    Stupid atheists.

    Snort.
    “Dictionary atheism” IS stupid. And boring.
    But
    #notallatheists

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