The Destiny of the Human Race and the Meaning of Our Lives

and behold, joy and gladness, killing oxen and slaughtering sheep,eating steak and drinking wine.

“Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.” Isaiah 22:13


and

“And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

All these are the beginning of sorrows….

“And there will be signs in sun and moon and stars, and on the earth distress of nations in perplexity because of the roaring of the sea and the waves,
….
The fourth angel poured out his bowl on the sun, and it was allowed to scorch people with fire.

Matt 24:7-8; Luke 21:25; Rev 16:8

The Apostle Paul said:

If the dead are not raised, “Let us eat and drink, for tomorrow we die.
1 Cor 15:32

More and more nutjobs and terrorist states are getting nuclear weapons. Any bets on the likelihood of a nuclear, chemical, biological conflict of large scale? One doesn’t need an ICBM to deliver a bomb, just bring a boat close enough with a device to the shore of some country and set it off….Heck, some boats with the equivalent of dirty bombs, just my spontaneously leak and cause damage:
https://www.greenleft.org.au/content/russian-nuclear-subs-meltdown-danger

What about global warming and overpopulation? Famines indeed.

Additionally, Michael Lynch, Bryan Sykes, John Sanford and others think the human genome is deteriorating. Sykes gives the human race about 100,000 years. How long will the human race last?

So here is your chance to agree with my grim assessment of the destiny of the human race or provide a more optimistic PollyAnna viewpoint.

Additionally, in light of the grim future of humanity, here is your chance to express where you find meaning in human existence. Maybe all you have is just a search for amusement. Some are amused by science, some by phylogenies, some by mythology, some by sports, some by promoting YEC, some by flying airplanes, some by playing video games, some by running a business, whatever. Minimizing pain, maximizing good times seems a reasonable strategy for a lot things in life.

I suppose it would help if some go to heaven after this miserable world ends, but in the meantime, if you have the chance, you can also have a good time. Nothing wrong with going to casinos and having a good time eating and drinking and then going to church. Casinos have the best cuisine on the planet such as in Las Vegas (provided you don’t get killed by some nutjob):

stratosphere

old vegas cuisine

As far as sermons, here is my favorite by Joel Osteen (net worth 55 million dollars from book sales). Here is a 55 million dollar sermon, my favorite! I’ve listened to it many times. Osteen expresses how I find meaning in life:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bBY2dJHyqA

So here is your chance to speculate on the destiny of the human race and speak about what gives meaning to your life in view of the grim future facing the human race.

117 thoughts on “The Destiny of the Human Race and the Meaning of Our Lives

  1. J-Mac:
    If you love religion so much, why aren’t a part of your theologian-friend’s religion?

    It would appear that you are assuming that love and hate are the only options, so if I don’t hate religion, then I must love it. But love and hate are not the only options. One can, for example, be apathetic towards religion. Or find it an object of mild curiosity.

    Is your gay friend married to a woman???

    No, he is not.

  2. Kantian Naturalist: It would appear that you are assuming that love and hate are the only options, so if I don’t hate religion, then I must love it. But love and hate are not the only options. One can, for example, be apathetic towards religion. Or find it an object of mild curiosity.

    Of course… I have a high disregard for many organized religions but especially for the self-appointed “apostles of Christ” like Osteen who deceive people for their own gain… However, most of their followers deserve what they receive because they hear what they want to hear…

    [J-mac] Is your gay friend married to a woman???

    Kantian Naturalist:No, he is not.

    Well, he must be a true catholic theologian…or I should say the true future catholic theologian…

    How about this: I know a “happy marriage” of transgenders; the “woman” used to me a man, and the “man” used to be a woman…they adopted 2 or 3 children but they sure hope that evolution will soon catch up and homosexual and transgenders will evolve to bare children…

    Allan Miller disagrees but he has been wrong before…

  3. walto:
    Wow, J-Mac hasn’t actually left…again.Quelle surprise.

    You may have notice that I don’t publish OPs anymore and comment only from time to time…. I retired from OPs but I did say in my one comment that I will check TSZ from time to time…as I’m waiting for Joe and Tom to tear the quantum mechanics apart in the “evolutionary implications” of non-random mutations…and the elements of randomness in natural selection…

    Who would miss such a breakthrough in evolutionary field?

  4. J-mac:

    If I were God, I would never raise from the dead christians like Osteen…
    Would you like to know why?

    Yes, because I really liked the sermon by Osteen I linked to. I hope you don’t have too much dirt on him because I’d like to think he ain’t as bad as Jim and Tammy Faye Baker.

    Well, if he’s a bad guy, that’s just too bad, and I would be sorry to hear that because he did give a really nice sermon the one time I really listen.

    Hey, hope you are well. God bless.

  5. J-Mac: You may have notice that I don’t publish OPs anymore and comment only from time to time…. I retired from OPs but I did say in my one comment that I will check TSZ from time to time…as I’m waiting for Joe and Tom to tear the quantum mechanics apart in the “evolutionary implications” of non-random mutations…and the elements of randomness in natural selection…

    Who would miss such a breakthrough in evolutionary field?

    That’s actually not what you said. And each time you’ve come back you’ve told a different story. But hey, you took a couple day break. Good for you!

  6. walto,
    What’s the beef, walto? Do you want to limit participation here by intellect? By political persuasion? By religious belief?

  7. Alan:

    What’s the beef, walto? Do you want to limit participation here by intellect? By political persuasion? By religious belief?

    Where on earth did that come from? Walto hasn’t said anything of the sort.

  8. Alan Fox:
    walto,
    What’s the beef, walto? Do youwant to limit participation here by intellect? By political persuasion? By religious belief?

    I think walto is trying to make J-Mac feel uncomfortable for failing to stay away after his goodbye. To me too it sounded like J-Mac promised to go away and stay gone…

  9. Alan Fox:
    walto,
    What’s the beef, walto? Do youwant to limit participation here by intellect? By political persuasion? By religious belief?

    What the hell are you talking about, Alan?

  10. keiths:
    Alan:

    Where on earth did that come from?Walto hasn’t said anything of the sort.

    Not only that, it was Alan (and, I guess Neil) that cooked up the prior approval status for J-Mac–presumably based on his religion, intelligence, politics, or whatever. That was something that I objected to repeatedly. Yet Alan slanders *me* with his indignant “question.”

    Inconsistency, thy name is Alan Fox.

  11. J-Mac,

    You’re free to continue posting here, and free to continue making a fool of yourself, and no one has claimed otherwise.

    Walto is just pointing out the goofiness of your behavior:

    That’s actually not what you said. And each time you’ve come back you’ve told a different story. But hey, you took a couple day break. Good for you!

    It was just another dumb J-Mac flounce/deflounce, but with a dramatic pseudo-farewell thread this time.

  12. Jesus predicted a rise in Earthquakes. The US Geological Survey is confirming that prediction:

    http://www.abc10.com/news/local/california/usgs-risk-of-earthquakes-increasing/108615554

    Responding to a rising number of earthquakes, the U.S. Geologic Survey is updating its maps to distinguish between naturally occurring earthquakes as well as those induced by humans.

    It’s the first time the USGS has taken such measures to make the distinction, recognizing the difference between the ground-shaking hazards. In the past, USGS maps only identified natural earthquake hazards.

    It’s also the first one-year outlook for the nation’s earthquakes, supplementing existing USGS assessments that have historically provided a 50-year forecast, USGS officials report.

    The report shows that approximately 7 million people live and work in areas of the central and eastern U.S. (CEUS) with potential for damaging shaking from induced seismicity, according to the USGS. That is mostly concentrated in Oklahoma, Texas, New Mexico, Kansas, Colorado and Arkansas.

    Jesus predicted an increase in wars: you only need consider the headlines.

    The Apostle John predicted 1/3 to 1/2 of the global population will be killed suddenly. Any doubt that this is seriously possible?

    The Bible predicted the stars will no longer give their light one day. We now know that is also true.

    The point is, and the point of the OP, is that Pascal’s wager matters.

  13. stcordova: Jesus predicted a rise in Earthquakes.

    *sigh*

    Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in many parts of the world, as well as famines. But this is only the first of the birth pains…

    He didn’t predict a rise in earthquakes. Or famines. And he plainly says that even if they hear of earthquakes and famines it doesn’t mean the end is near.

    stcordova: Jesus predicted an increase in wars:

    *another sigh*

    And you will hear of wars and threats of wars, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must take place, but the end won’t follow immediately.

    He didn’t predict an increase in wars. And he plainly says that even if they hear of such it doesn’t mean the end is near.

    Good grief Sal. Stop misrepresenting the teachings of Jesus.

    “And when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then you will know that the time of its destruction has arrived.

    It took place in AD 70. It has nothing to do with tabloid headlines.

  14. stcordova: And here I often think the Muslim love one another so much they’d go to war with Israel first before shooting at each other.

    Jesus to his disciples:

    When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near.

    Oh, wait. That happened back in AD 70.

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