Slavery in the Bible

The Christian Bible condones slavery explicitly in numerous passages. One of those reference often by slave owners in the Antebellum South comes from the story of Noah.

Genesis 9:24-27
9:24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
9:26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.


The book of Joshua also demonstrates the Christian god’s support of slavery:

9:27 And Joshua made them that day hewers of wood and drawers of water for the congregation, and for the altar of the LORD, even unto this day, in the place which he should choose.

In fact, there are numerous biblical instructions on how to acquire slaves, making it clear that buying people for money is perfectly acceptable.

Exodus 21:2-7
21:2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
21:3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.
21:4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself.
21:5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
21:6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

Leviticus 22:10-11
22:10 There shall no stranger eat of the holy thing: a sojourner of the priest, or an hired servant, shall not eat of the holy thing.
22:11 But if the priest buy any soul with his money, he shall eat of it, and he that is born in his house: they shall eat of his meat.

Or slaves can be taken in war.

Deuteronomy 20:10-14
20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
20:11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
20:14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.

Leviticus goes on to make it clear that slaves are inheritable possessions.

25:44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigor.

There are also many biblical instructions on how to treat slaves. Genesis 16:6-9 says that angels will force slaves to return to their owners.

16:6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thine hand; do to her as it pleaseth thee. And when Sarai dealt hardly with her, she fled from her face.
16:7 And the angel of the LORD found her by a fountain of water in the wilderness, by the fountain in the way to Shur.
16:8 And he said, Hagar, Sarai’s maid, whence camest thou? and whither wilt thou go? And she said, I flee from the face of my mistress Sarai.
16:9 And the angel of the LORD said unto her, Return to thy mistress, and submit thyself under her hands.

Beating slaves as long as they don’t die immediately is perfectly fine.

Exodus 21:20-21
21:20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
21:21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

Leviticus shows that slaves are property, not covered by the laws protecting other people.

19:20 And whosoever lieth carnally with a woman, that is a bondmaid, betrothed to an husband, and not at all redeemed, nor freedom given her; she shall be scourged; they shall not be put to death, because she was not free.

The New Testament doesn’t fare any better. Slavery is explicitly condoned in many places.

Luke 12:46-47
12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
12:47 And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

Luke 17:7-9
17:7 But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat?
17:8 And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and gird thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward thou shalt eat and drink?
17:9 Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not.

1 Corinthians 7:21-22
7:21 Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
7:22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord’s freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ’s servant.

Ephesians 6:5 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God.

Colossians 3:22 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ.

1 Timothy 6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their masters worthy of all honor, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

Titus 2:9-10
2:9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things.

1 Peter 2:18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

Nowhere in the Christian Bible is slavery explicitly condemned nor are any of the verses that explicitly support the practice repudiated. Of course, numerous verses are interpreted to be anti-slavery. The fact that both slavery proponents and abolitionists were able to quote scripture in support of their views demonstrates clearly that the bible is, at best, ambiguous. Surely a book intended to provide moral guidance could have found room in the Ten Commandments for “Thou shalt not own slaves.”

The rational conclusion is that the bible is an amalgamation of writings by many different men, each with his own political goals and views on morality. It is only those who hold it to be the inerrant word of their god who find themselves in the position of attempting to defend the odious passages that clearly support slavery. That attempted defense is a blatant and appalling demonstration of religious belief overriding common decency and empathy.

831 thoughts on “Slavery in the Bible

  1. newton: Christians interpreting the Bible in a way that reflected the culture way they were in. Never claimed otherwise.

    Individuals incorrectly interpreting the Bible in a new and novel way so that it appeared to condone slavery to suit their own selfish interests

    Sound familiar, it should.

    That is exactly what it taking place here with the peanut gallery

    peace

  2. fifthmonarchyman: 1) Do you have any evidence that anyone ever got their hand cut off?

    The number is completely irrelevant.

    fifthmonarchyman: 2) Defending your husband is not the crime here crushing someones genitals is?

    Again with the ‘crushing’?

    fifthmonarchyman: 3) The principle to follow is do not resist an evil person

    (Unless they are Amalekites.)

    Deuteronomy 25:11 makes no mention of an evil person – just two countrymen fighting.

    fifthmonarchyman: 4) These OC commands (all of them) were issued to deter and restrain the evil of a rebellious people because the people of the OC did not love their neighbor. They are not a way to make you love your neighbor

    Wave those hands!

    fifthmonarchyman: 5) the greater spiritual message is

    For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
    (Mat 7:2)

    I’m sure the ancient Israelites would have been surprised to learn that they had to wait 1000+ years before they could understand the greater spiritual message of “cut off her hand – show her no mercy”.

    “The Word of God is like a lion. You don’t have to defend a lion. All you have to do is let the lion loose, and the lion will defend itself.”

    It’s just as well – you are the Walter Palmer of apologetics.

  3. Woodbine:
    I want to christen FMM the ‘Clouseau of Apologetics‘ but unfortunately Jason Gastrich (anyone remember him?) earned that moniker way back when he tried his hand at debating Dan Barker.

    Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man.Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.

    Love thy neighbour as yourself.

    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death.

    Love thy neighbour as yourself.

    All who curse their father or mother must be put to death.They are guilty of a capital offence.

    Love thy neighbour as yourself.

    ….etc

    But you’re forgetting that we’re living under the new covenant , where the meaning of “stone” was retroactively changed to “turn their water into wine and party with them”. It’s all right there in the Sermon on the Mount. It’s why the Israelites got lost for 40 years on a patch of ground the size of a large farm, they were just totally hammered every day.

  4. fifthmonarchyman: So now it’s come down to obscure Hebrew word studies. Do you really need to stoop this low to scratch the “I hate God” itch ?

    The Hebrew word is châzaq it is used 290 times in the OT only 9 times it is translated “take” In the KJV.

    Most of the time it’s translated “strong” that should give you an idea of what kind of grip we are talking about it’s also translated “prevail”.

    Here it is in another passage to give you an idea of the flavor of the meaning of term.

    So David châzaq over the Philistine with a sling and with a stone, and smote the Philistine, and slew him; but there was no sword in the hand of David.

    1st sam 17:50

    and another

    For it was of the LORD to châzaq their hearts, that they should come against Israel in battle, that he might destroy them utterly, and that they might have no favour, but that he might destroy them, as the LORD commanded Moses.

    Joshua 11:20

    and another

    And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered it out of his mouth: and when he arose against me, I châzaq him by his beard, and smote him, and slew him.

    1st sam 17:35

    and another

    And they châzaqevery one his fellow by the head, and thrust his sword in his fellow’s side; so they fell down together: wherefore that place was called Helkathhazzurim, which is in Gibeon.

    2nd Sam 2:16

    there is more where that came from but you get the point

    peace

    What’s so utterly hilarious about this crap is that FMM is just demonstrating that he, like most humans, is possessed of the evolved social decency that is one of the defining characteristics of our species. His frantic attempts to assign credit for his instinctual behavior to this particular set of superstitions, that clings to the heel of his culture like a sticky dog turd, reveals little more than a desperate fear of the unknown. Or a lack of imagination. Who knows, but it certainly is pitiful.

  5. Leviticus 25:44-45 (ESV)

    44: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.

    45: You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property.

    46: You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

    So, when the Bible says “you may” what it actually means is “you may not“.

    Oh dear.

  6. fifthmonarchyman: Do you think the folks who invented the Jesus myth were stupid?

    Non sequitur.

    Do you think that the folks who wrote and compiled the NT were stupid then?

    Non sequitur.

    At this point you’re just desperately squirming in your attempt to avoid addressing the clear instructions given in your bible on how to acquire and treat slaves. The fact that your holy book sanctions the practice is indisputable. The best response you’ve been able to make is your repugnant trivializing of owning human beings as “temporary and local.”

    Why do only those who deny the historicity and accuracy of the Bible understand what it means?

    Perhaps because we’re not still deluded by childhood indoctrination and because we have not made an old book of myths so much a part of our self identity that pointing out its flaws seems like a personal attack.

  7. fifthmonarchyman:
    . . .

    newton: Some Muslims are smart ,some are stupid. Same for atheists, same for Christians.

    not according to Patrick and his crew

    I agree completely with what newton wrote. Your interpretation of my words is not better than your interpretation of your bible.

    He is claiming that I don’t see the obvious meaning of the text.

    I’m not just claiming that, I’ve provided extensive evidence demonstrating it. Your bible describes how to acquire and treat slaves. It explicitly condones the practice. You refuse to address those passages.

  8. fifthmonarchyman:

    Stormfield: I doubt this comes as news to anyone here, but minds like FMM’s actually thrive on dissonance. They have been immunized against reason

    Is that another way to say we Christians are stupid?

    I see it as saying that people who are indoctrinated in a particular religion to the point where they consider the bible to be inerrant are quite likely to make stupid statements when attempting to rationalize what they know to be a moral position with the clear statements in the bible to the contrary. Some such poor afflicted people actually go so far as to make ethically appalling statements like trivializing slavery as “temporary and local.”

  9. OMagain:
    If the bible had simply and unambiguously said slavery was bad it would have been really quite hard to corrupt that message. Little room for interpretation with a plain message. Especially if Jesus had had one of those chats with his apostles about it to reinforce the message.

    “What, all slavery Jesus? Even for other races then us? Even when we capture them in war?

    Yes, it’s all bad m’kay.”

    fifthmonarchyman has explained already that the bible had to save space for describing the rules around women’s menstrual cycles. There was no room for “Thou shalt not enslave.”

  10. If there is anything this website has taught us, it is that atheists just love talking about the bible.

  11. phoodoo:
    If there is anything this website has taught us, it is that atheists just love talking about the bible.

    The raison d’être of this site was originally to discuss Intelligent Design. The fact is that ID is nothing more than creationism in a costume lab coat, hence the frequent discussions of the bible.

  12. Patrick, do you have an answer for why Jews aren’t the highest per capita slave owners? After all, isn’t it your position that their Scriptures literally cry out for them to enslave others?

  13. Patrick: The fact is that ID is nothing more than creationism in a costume lab coat…

    Is that an objective truth Patrick, or just your opinion?

    For that to be a fact it would need to be true. Yet it is not true. Yet you seem to have convinced yourself somehow that it is true.

  14. Mung:
    Patrick, do you have an answer for why Jews aren’t the highest per capita slave owners? After all, isn’t it your position that their Scriptures literally cry out for them to enslave others?

    One possibility is that most people’s innate decency and cultural background results in them finding the idea of slavery repugnant. There are, of course, some people who dismiss it as merely “temporary and local.”

  15. Mung:

    The fact is that ID is nothing more than creationism in a costume lab coat…

    Is that an objective truth Patrick, or just your opinion?

    For that to be a fact it would need to be true. Yet it is not true. Yet you seem to have convinced yourself somehow that it is true.

    When one can replace every instance of “creationist” with “intelligent design proponent” in an entire book without changing the meaning, it is clear that the two are synonyms.

    “cdesign proponentsists” — you lose.

  16. I originally posed this question to Mung, but it seems appropriate here, too.

    fifth,

    Jesus seems to enjoy watching you fail, again and again. At the very least, he does nothing to prevent it. Are you sure he loves you?

  17. phoodoo,

    If there is anything this website has taught us, it is that atheists just love talking about the bible.

    Of course, and for good reason. No rational person can look at the Bible and believe that it’s the inerrant word of a perfect God.

    That’s why I say to fundagelical Christians: Read your Bible, cover to cover, skipping nothing, and ponder what you read. If you do that honestly, you’ll get the same squeamish feeling that fifth obviously gets.

    What happens next will depend on your tolerance for cognitive dissonance.

  18. Stormfield:

    His frantic attempts to assign credit for his instinctual behavior to this particular set of superstitions, that clings to the heel of his culture like a sticky dog turd, reveals little more than a desperate fear of the unknown. Or a lack of imagination. Who knows, but it certainly is pitiful.

    Amen.

    And bonus points for imagery. 🙂

  19. fifth:

    Most of the time it’s translated “strong” that should give you an idea of what kind of grip we are talking about

    Oh, she had a strong grip on his genitals? Well, off with her hand, then. Show her no pity.

  20. Patrick: There are, of course, some people who dismiss it as merely “temporary and local.”

    Slavery still exists today, in the modern world, which would stretch the “only temporary” claim beyond credulity.

  21. keiths:

    “Discharges causing uncleanness” get a whole chapter in Leviticus, but Yahweh can’t spare a sentence to say “Oh, and by the way, don’t enslave people.”

    fifth:

    Yep the uncleanliness stuff is more vital in the long term spiritual sense of things. Slavery is temporary and local.

    Mung:

    Slavery still exists today, in the modern world, which would stretch the “only temporary” claim beyond credulity.

    See, fifth? Even your fellow Christian Mung thinks your characterization is ridiculous.

  22. There’s also good reason to believe that slavery is not local.

    https://www.walkfree.org/

    http://borgenproject.org/seven-facts-modern-day-slavery/

    Patrick, your faith in ” most people’s innate decency,” while touching, could also use a dose of reality:

    There are more slaves today than were seized from Africa in four centuries of the trans-Atlantic slave trade. In fact, there are more slaves in the world today than at any other point in human history, with an estimated 21 million in bondage across the globe.

    5 facts about modern slavery

  23. Do you have any actual facts about slavery you’d like to discuss Patrick?

    Surely you must think that as Christianity spread throughout the ancient world slavery spread right along with it, what with Christians being the leading proponents for slavery and all, and have some facts to support that belief.

  24. Why don’t you ask fifth, Mung?

    He’s the one whose “temporary and local” characterization you are mocking.

    Oops.

  25. keiths: See, fifth? Even your fellow Christian Mung thinks your characterization is ridiculous.

    I’m more inclined to believe that you’re quote-mining. As usual, you leave out any link to the actual context. Why do you do that?

    But yes, I think any claim that slavery is either local or temporary is seriously misguided. But so is the claim that the Bible has anything to do with the reasons why people own slaves and engage in human trafficking.

  26. Patrick: When one can replace every instance of “creationist” with “intelligent design proponent” in an entire book without changing the meaning, it is clear that the two are synonyms.

    Great. You’ve got a sample size of one book. This one goes in the facts to keep on file.

  27. keiths: That’s why I say to fundagelical Christians

    LoL. I think that’s the first time I’ve heard that one.

  28. Mung,

    I’m more inclined to believe that you’re quote-mining.

    Of course you are. You’re inclined to be wrong, and you have a knack for it. It’s one of the reasons you don’t get the respect you crave.

    Here’s fifth’s full comment:

    keiths: “Discharges causing uncleanness” get a whole chapter in Leviticus, but Yahweh can’t spare a sentence to say “Oh, and by the way, don’t enslave people.”

    Yep the uncleanliness stuff is more vital in the long term spiritual sense of things. Slavery is temporary and local.

    On the other hand all sin is uncleanness and the prohibitions served as a physical picture of what that does to us and the world around us.

    again basic stuff. not sure how you could miss it.

    peace

    You thought you were disagreeing with Patrick, but now you find, to your embarrassment, that you’re disagreeing with fifth. Keep up the good work.

  29. keiths: You thought you were disagreeing with Patrick, but now you find, to your embarrassment, that you’re disagreeing with fifth. Keep up the good work.

    You really ought to give up your attempts at mind-reading.

    On the matter of “temporary and local” I never thought I was disagreeing with Patrick. It’s pretty obvious that his reference to “some people” was to people he disagreed with. I was actually agreeing with Patrick. Slavery is neither temporary or local.

    My disagreement with Patrick is over his belief that things are getting better because, you know, humans are all decent now and stuff. Innate decency.

    And I have a long history of disagreement with other Christians.

    Your senses are deceiving you.

  30. fifth,

    The Hebrew word is châzaq it is used 290 times in the OT only 9 times it is translated “take” In the KJV.

    And how many times is it translated as “crush” or something similar? Why, zero, of course.

    Here’s how it’s actually used, according to Strong’s Hebrew Lexicon:

    חזק
    châzaq
    khaw-zak’
    A primitive root; to fasten upon; hence to seize, be strong (figuratively courageous, causatively strengthen, cure, help, repair, fortify), obstinate; to bind, restrain, conquer

    KJV Usage: aid, amend, X calker, catch, cleave, confirm, be constant, constrain, continue, be of good (take) courage (-ous, -ly), encourage (self), be established, fasten, force, fortify, make hard, harden, help, (lay) hold (fast), lean, maintain, play the man, mend, become (wax) mighty, prevail, be recovered, repair, retain, seize, be (wax) sore, strengten (self), be stout, be (make, shew, wax) strong (-er), be sure, take (hold), be urgent, behave self valiantly, withstand.

    Nothing remotely like “crush”.

    You are so ashamed of the Bible — and rightly so — that you simply cannot allow it to say what it actually says. You want to change “seize” to “crush” because even you understand that a God who would order the permanent maiming of a woman, merely for grabbing a guy’s genitals in defense of her husband, is an unjust and evil God.

    You have put yourself in the ridiculous position of defending the Bible as God’s inerrant word, while simultaneously showing us that you are deeply ashamed of it and feel the need to alter it to fit your preconceptions of what God should be saying.

  31. Mung,

    On the matter of “temporary and local” I never thought I was disagreeing with Patrick.

    Riiiiight.

  32. Leviticus 25:44-45 (ESV)

    44: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.

    45: You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property.

    46: You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

    Hmmm….

  33. Patrick,

    Well Patrick, I have an easy reply for you, taken straight from the EVO”S playbook-
    No one believes in your false caricature of ID. Why don’t you learn the theory and get back to us. Go do some reading.

  34. keiths: No rational person can look at the Bible and believe that it’s the inerrant word of a perfect God.

    How in the world does that explain your obsession with it?

    No one in their right minds can believe that aliens have come to earth and abducted people. In fact, no one in their right minds can believe in aliens. WHY don’t you obsess about that?

  35. fifthmonarchyman:
    Individuals incorrectly interpreting the Bible in a new and novel way so that it appeared to condone slavery to suit their own selfish interests

    Sound familiar, it should.

    That is exactly what it taking place here with the peanut gallery

    peace

    Just like the original authors did when they put the stuff about slavery and masters.

    I believe you point is that Jesus trumps the bad stuff in the OT, but the stuff is still there. From your review the reason was to spread the evangelical message, the end justified the means.

  36. phoodoo: No one in their right minds can believe that aliens have come to earth and abducted people. In fact, no one in their right minds can believe in aliens. WHY don’t you obsess about that?

    Paging William J. Murray….William J. Murray to reception, please.

  37. phoodoo:
    If there is anything this website has taught us, it is that atheists just love talking about the bible.

    When I went to Costa Rica, I took a course on snakes. Same rationale.

  38. phoodoo: No one in their right minds can believe that aliens have come to earth and abducted people. In fact, no one in their right minds can believe in aliens.

    Well, ask William about it at UD:

    William J. Murray:
    If you and others around you whom you trusted repeatedly had the experience of being visited and abducted by what appeared to be alien creatures in some sort of craft, would it be irrational to believe that “alien abductions” in fact occur?

    and

    William J. Murray: I haven’t been personally abducted as far as I know/remember. I have physically encountered one of those “greys” in my house. My wife had multiple experiences with all the characteristics of abduction, as did her son. At one point she was in the early stages of pregnancy when the fetus disappeared overnight from her womb after she had a nightmare about little creatures with clown faces coming out of a closet and taking her away. There’s also considerable more personal evidence, but that’s the main stuff.

    So yeah, I’m pretty sure abductions occur, even though I’ve never actually seen or experienced it firsthand that I’m aware of. In my philosophy, the only things I say I know as facts are those things I directly experience first-hand. For example, I know those “greys” are real, whatever they are. I just don’t know what they are.

  39. Patrick, can you point me to an atheist philosopher who provides an argument against slavery based on the principles of atheism?

    Or are you once again borrowing your morals from elsewhere?

  40. Patrick: One possibility is that most people’s innate decency and cultural background results in them finding the idea of slavery repugnant.

    My personal view is that those who speak so cavalierly about slavery should experience it for themselves.

  41. Mung: Patrick, can you point me to an atheist philosopher who provides an argument against slavery based on the principles of atheism?

    Atheism comes with no moral principles.

    Theism comes with no moral principles.

    Christianity, however, does come with moral principles.

    Let’s remind ourselves what the Bible says about slavery shall we….

    Leviticus 25:44-45 (ESV)

    44: As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you.

    45: You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property.

    46: You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

    ….yep, the Bible emphatically states says you may purchase and own slaves.

    Mung: Or are you once again borrowing your morals from elsewhere?

    The (idiotic) implication being that prohibitions against murder, theft, perjury etc were unknown before a sunburned Moses returned from Sinai.

    Mung, why are you running interference for the Biblical practice of slavery?

  42. Woodbine: Atheism comes with no moral principles.

    That’s a shame. No, really.

    Atheists are so judgmental, and without principle.

  43. Woodbine: The (idiotic) implication being that prohibitions against murder, theft, perjury etc were unknown before a sunburned Moses returned from Sinai.

    No, the implication being that they don’t arise from atheism. As you yourself admit.

  44. Do people’s opinion, however learned, override plain language?

    I find it interesting that many people resist reinterpreting the bible in light of modern liberal attitudes.

  45. Mung: Atheists are so judgmental, and without principle.

    Isn’t that judgemental about a disparate group who just happen to lack belief in God’s.

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