Not long ago I was suggested to add here at TSZ a post that was (what do they call that?) fracked – scrambled – made into nonsense at UD by Salvador T. Cordova.
Now, Salvador has sent my words to spam and included the names of ‘welcome’ critics, some of whom post here at TSZ. Quite sadly, I am just not welcome at UD by big-hearted Sal the creationist-IDist, who’s finally sold IDism out. Here’s the thread: http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/am-i-the-only-id-proponent-that-doesnt-like-the-phrase-positive-case-for-id/
What’s funny about it is that I was actually agreeing with Salvador, and with Mike Gene, who rejects the scientificity of Uppercase Intelligent Design Theory. Sal is surely onto something when he says “there isn’t a positive argument for Design.” So, just a warning, if you want to get spammed at UD or sent away from one of ‘even-handed’ Sal’s threads, whatever you do, just don’t compliment him or tell him he’s right!
The contents of my deleted post are below:
“Mike never said he thought ID is science” – Salvador Cordova
Yeah, right, why would anyone ever think that, huh?! 😉
Mike Gene’s book (“The Design Matrix”) was published in 2007. Up to that point (on ARN, Telic Thoughts, here [UD] and elsewhere), he was not openly a theist, as far as I recollect. He was defending the possible ‘scientificity’ of IDT. He’s a biologist, after all, isn’t he?
His conclusion that IDT is not ‘scientific,’ that ‘Design’ is not a scientific concept says nothing about his ‘motivations,’ only about what he came to realize after many years of thinking about it.
My ‘nasty habit’ is therefore in exposing silly things that IDists say. As an IDist, Sal, this accordingly doesn’t sit well with you. You’d rather an IDist not say a silly thing ever!
However, in the case of this thread, Salvador, like I said: “Well done!”
Do you notice, folks, the capitalised ‘Design’ in “there isn’t a positive argument for Design”? Likewise, he properly uses lowercase ‘design’ when speaking about ‘human designs.’
‘Strictly scientific’ = Luskin. No positive case = Cordova.
You’ve sold the IDism farm in your OP, Salvador T. Cordova. And as a finance person, probably you estimate that it’s a good bargain. I’d bet it came ‘inexpensive’.
It would be better for honest, thinking theists (and atheists), surely, to hear such things as “there isn’t a positive argument for [scientistic] Design” from creationist-IDists more often.
Again, Salvador: Well done!
End of post.
That’s an easily angered or jaded man who deletes posts that actually agree with him. Let it serve as a warning to anyone who posts at UD: just don’t agree with Salvador that “there is no positive case for Design.” And surely don’t mention the Uppercase ID vs. lowercase id distinction. That’ll definitely sink a ship…