Noyau (2)

…the noyau, an animal society held together by mutual animosity rather than co-operation

Robert Ardrey, The Territorial Imperative.

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  5. keiths ought to patent his impotence detector. The major hurdle he faces is that he tested it on himself.

  6. keiths:
    Mung’s impotence is gnawing at him today.

    Mung spent a lot of time today tossing his tiny turds at Clown Fish over at UD. It’s only natural Mung bring some of his persistent rectal itch here.

  9. Mung:
    keiths ought to patent his impotence detector. The major hurdle he faces is that he tested it on himself.

    Mungy, are you two-timing me?

  10. Adapa: Mung spent a lot of time today tossing his tiny turds at Clown Fish over at UD.It’s only natural Mung bring some of his persistent rectal itch here.

    I have rectal itch. Is that Mung?

  11. Richardthughes: Obvious troll is obvious and doesn’t know what article means.

    Your strategy seems to be to create an OP and then have nothing more to say. Even News at UD makes an occasional comment in threads she starts.

    Kudos though for getting keiths to carry your water for you.

  12. Mung’s comment here seems to have disappeared. bump to see it we can bring to back.

  13. Mung, I’ll try and answer from memory as I can’t see the comment any more. (Admins?)

    Something about my strategy being posting and then not commenting after.

    Sometimes I just find thought provoking. I don’t necessarily have an agenda other than to read the comments of smart people with a plurality of viewpoints and also your comments. If I’m not especially knowledgeable about something I may not lead in all culture-warrior with my chin.

    We’re very different, you tragic fuckwit.

  19. Mung: Like how we avoid stating the obvious? Nah, that isn’t it.

    You embrace misstating the obvious:

    Mung:
    There’s an article?

  20. Reciprocating Bill: “Books are like a mirror. If an ass looks in, you can’t expect an angel to look out.”

    You must have lost the only game of chess you ever played. But at least you have the advantage of speaking from experience. Your belief in angels must be powerful.

  23. Reciprocating Bill: “Books are like a mirror. If an ass looks in, you can’t expect an angel to look out.”

    – Schopenhauer

    I see you can rely on the testimony of others when you want to.

  24. keiths: I’d tell him to grow a pair, but cojones don’t regenerate

    Finally you speak from personal experience.

  25. What’s the matter keiths, can’t manage to post an anti-Christ thread that won’t fall flat once your assumption of a hermeneutic of literalism is rejected?

  26. As for you, Richardthughes, I guess it just doesn’t matter that targets matter. Post a programming challenge that has no target that can be solved by a GA.

  27. Oh Mung – are you being persecuted? Attacked by the intelligent educated segment of the culture?

    *Hugs*

  29. One would hope. i suspect that ID is done, Mung, and being in that train wont help your happiness.

  30. Yes, Elizabeth posted that ID was dead. She was wrong. Alan repeated it. He was wrong. Not the first time for either of them.

    The question is, without ID, what would happen to TSZ? My quess is that it would die. But for that to be true it would have to be the case that Patrick is mistaken and that TSZ is not really a “skeptical” site. Skepticism does not begin and end with ID.

  31. Mung: The question is, without ID, what would happen to TSZ?

    I don’t know. How many of the last 50 posts were about ID?

  32. The most general threads of “skepticism” here at TSZ revolve around theism and Christianity, but those are hardly the raison d’être for this site. The fundamental reason for this site is it’s opposition to UD, an ID site.

    What were the last 50 posts “skeptical” of?

  33. Mung:

    The question is, without ID, what would happen to TSZ? My quess is that it would die.

    Don’t worry, Mung. As a fuckwit, you’re a generalist, not a specialist. You’ll be able to botch whatever topics come up.

  36. Second fiddle fuckwit goes to Richardthughes. Not that he ever minds playing second fiddle to keiths.

  38. DNA_jock should change his handle to DNA_joke. I wiped the floor with his tongue over the chromatin discussion and the regulatory mechanisms that control SRY expression.

    His willful incomprenhension is pathetic.

    Btw, I got A’s in my graduate classes at the NIH. Even though I’m in a part-time graduate program, classes at the NIH count as credits for doctoral students at Johns Hopkins in cellular biology and other disciplines. One class I happened to take this semester was on Chromatin Modification, and it just happened to be relevant to the flap over the New Yorker article.

    I suspected some of the professional biologists here were shaky in their conception of the cutting edge in molecular biology.

    The fact I made the grade confirms to me the suspicions that some of my detractors like DNA_joke aren’t as sharp as they represent themselves to be.

  42. Hey Sal –

    Are you independently wealthy? All you’ve seemed to do for decades is attend graduate school, apparently as a kind of hobby.

  43. Richardthughes: I don’t know. How many of the last 50 posts were about ID?

    Probably more than the last 50 posts at UD. Right now, they have their knickers in a knot over not being able to convince a subjectivist of the error of his ways. In the last few weeks OPs have been written about it by William Murray, Barry Arrogant, StephenB and Mullings (x 10 and counting for KairosFocus) and KairosFocus has written tens of thousands of words in his comments about it.

  44. stcordova:
    DNA_jock should change his handle to DNA_joke. I wiped the floor with his tongue over the chromatin discussion and the regulatory mechanisms that control SRY expression.

    LOL! Sure thing Sal. You’re a legend in your own mind. 😀

  45. Mung:
    The question is, without ID, what would happen to TSZ?

    I see Mung still keeps his balls in Barry’s purse.

  46. RB,

    Attending school part time in the evenings has been a hobby because I like learning. Doing it over a long time frame spreads out the cost. But also various employers have paid for my schooling since high tech contractors get more competitive in contract bids when they can advertise their employees are highly trained.. That is customary in the geographical region I live in.

    So how much computer science, electrical engineering, math, physics and biology have you acquired to make you competent in these discussions.

  47. stcordova:

    So how much computer science, electrical engineering, math, physics and biology have you acquired to make you competent in these discussions.

    I suspect It depends on if you’re trying to explain or overturn contemporary understanding.

  48. I suspect It depends on if you’re trying to explain or overturn contemporary understanding.

    Agree for the most part.

    I really was responding to DNA_joke and ReciprocatingBill’s veiled insults.

    I thought DNA_joke’s tone toward me was unwarranted given I was talking about purely technical matters, and I finally got fed up with it.

    I provided diagrams and links to papers, he responded with insults. I thought it was time to call him on it.

    I may not be a professional biologist nor have an advanced degree in biology, but it’s not like I’m not getting appropriate knowledge from good classrooms.

    Someone who claims to be a DNA_jock but doesn’t recognize chromatin influence on gene regulation is a DNA_joke.

  49. Lovely to see things are all sweetness and light. Lightning took out our phone and internet so I’ve had a week’s (almost) total withdrawal from TSZ.

    What’s new on the Rialto?

  50. More DNA_joke stupidity, he says SRY is unambiguously at the top of the regulatory hierarchy and then points out 16 other transcription factors regulate the chromatin that regulates the SRY. How stupid does this get. If 16 factors regulate chromatin that regulate SRY expression, then SRY isn’t unambiguously at the top of the regulatory hierarchy as he first claimed.

    timing of SRY expression is controlled by “Lots of fun stuff, including 16 other transcription factors”.

    Control of timing then implies it is controlled and therefore not ultimately at the top of the hierarchy. The fact there are 16 other transcription factors (which themselves may be regulated by chromatin) sort of muddles the ability to describe gene regulation along a strict hierarchical model.

    I provided an example of a genetic/epigenetic/ncRNA regulatory network. It doesn’t look like a strict hierarchical diagram.

    If SRY is influenced by 16 other transcription factors through chromatin modification, it’s regulatory context is not strictly hierarchical. It would have the same sort of complexity as might be found in the diagram below that involves other genes.

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