if evolutionism is the mechanism for biological changing of bodyplans then it must be a option it could happen today, and relative to billions of species, it should be happening to a powerful percentage. new population by the millions should be newly created with need for new scientific names. Yet i say there are none or less than six. WHY? I say because evolutionism is not accurate as a mechanism . it never existed. other mechanisms exist. the great evidence against evolutionism is the very unlikely situation of it not having occurred in the last twenty years in great, or any, numbers. Very unlikely but i offer the issue.
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Misinterpreted? In all caps, too! Sounds serious. Where are paleontologists erring?
Silly question. Look, evolution doesn’t happen. Because the fossil record is entirely consistent with evolution (and with nothing else), it MUST be getting misinterpreted. The alternative, accepted by paleontologists and ratified with every new fossil discovered, is simply unthinkable. Therefore wrong.
(And genetics are irrelevant because they too ratify evolution. And breeding organisms doesn’t count because it illustrates evolution as well. And nested hierarchies are too difficult to grasp, so they don’t count either. Lab experiments are numbingly consistent with evolutionary theory, so they are rejected.
As Dawkins wrote of creationists,
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Interesting that once all possible evidence is rejected, we get a demand to present evidence. Interesting that we keep doing so!)
No, its not interesting, because I didn’t ask you to show genetic variation in a population! What I asked was to show emergence of a new body part! Drinking milk isn’t a new body part!!
Fuck, and this was the week I was going to give up cursing!
Performance art moved to guano.
So now we know that DNA_Jock opposes art, which is simply another manifestation of speech.
You don’t even know how to create a proper link to the post you are quoting.
You have nothing. Your claim was that there is no observable change.You don’t even know what you mean by that. If you represent “Intelligent Design” then the sooner it dies the better.
What novel body part distinguishes humans from chimpansees?
I know this one! Is it the soul? phoodoo, that’s it right?
The brain size for example…while not novel really…But according to ONE of the many Darwin’s? theories all you have to do is feed the monkey more calories and the brain will grow like a balloon…
The rest will follow: chimps will lose dumbness, gain speech abilities, and most of all, begin wondering about its origins…
The story like that has gotta be true but…neurologists and radiologist see totally the opposite… 🤗
Therefore, it must be another evolutionary miracle… The omnipotent natural selection must’ve performed another evolutionary miracle…😅
The brain is a body part, brain size is not.
Thanks for playing though.
Right, so why did you ask such a silly question? I see no evidence that you understand the issue.
But according to J-Mac 90% of the brain is unneeded.
Likewise.
Glad you ask.
First, to emphasize that your demand for evidence of novel body parts is a very restrictive view of evolution. None have evolved since chimps and we parted ways, yet I am sure you would concede some important differences exist.
Secondly, given that no new body parts have evolved since our lineages separated six million years ago, wouldn’t you agree it isn’t really fair of you to ask for dozens of them segregating in modern human populations?
Something to ponder.
So? Even better! It should be a piece of cake to put ichimps under selective pressure or someting feed with high calories, the nonsese… It should work, no?
The excuses are well know…
One scientists spent 40 plus years with monkeys feeding them and teaching them the language… the rest is known… monkeys are as dumb as those who believe they could evolve into anything other than dumb monkeys…
BTW: Have you even bothered to look at the bone structures of chimps vs humans?
Pity…😏
Right. Something to ponder.
Evolution seems to have stopped.
Stop twisting my words!
The brain can compensate…
You’d have to have a brain first to comprehend it and this is why you keep embarrassing yourself… 😉
Try a high calorie diet with bananas! It apparently worked for you ancestors… 😂
It’s devolving… look at some brain functions … 😉
You believe humans and chimps have no meaningful differences?
Interesting turn of events.
No, I said to myself: “I bet J-Mac will tell us all about it.”
Go ahead, good man. Everybody is listening.
Must … resist ….
What, these words?
That you wrote? Those words?
Why should I?
Everybody is familiar with your confirmation bias…🤗 ie. ‘Hmmm… it must’ve evolved somehow…convergence this, convergence that…’
Or perhaps it was these words:
Was it those words?
Well, first, you are asking me to assume that humans did actually evolve from chimps. I don’t know this, no one does.
But more importantly, you are saying that no new body part has evolved for how many millions of years? 10 million? 100 million? And that is not a problem?
So how long before the next new part?
That’s what you tell yourself as to why people are not convinced by your arguments. It could not possibly be that your arguments are poor, no, it’s confirmation bias, yep, that’s what it is.
Heh. We must have been created in our current forms then, right? Is that what you believe?
LOL.
Never play a game of poker, J-Mac. You are too predictable.
In you case the evolution progressed way too fast and more than 90% of your neurons are squashed…You can comprehend what happens to neurons when they are squashed, right. Or no?
Well, in your case you don’t have remove even 99.9% of the brain… It will function the same with or without …😂
So much for plenty of IDists accepting common descent.
Six million. No, that is not a problem. We don’t have a quota.
You looked it up, didn’t you? That’s why the dodging…
Why? Why would continue to lie to yourself? Just because you want to wear a pink dress? Or, you don’t want to be told what to do?
So it must be true?
What about plenty more who don’t?
Dodging is your speciality…🤗
You’ve never heard of the chin evolutionary miracle?
All you have to do is…belive… Well…you know the rest of the science fiction story…😂
What happened to NEW body plan? Is there a difference between plan and part? We know that phoodoo went from a single cell to a multicellular organism in a period of approximately nine months then grew further into a physically mature adult (bites tongue) over some longer time under the control of genes that orchestrate the folding and differentiation of sheets of cells
But phoodoo is basically a much-modified segmented worm. There are no huge chasms needing to be leaped to get from worm to phoodoo.
Oh good, I’ll take that. So we do have a novel body part. I strongly doubt it will pass phoodoo’s high bar, though.
Corneel,
And nitpick at phoodoo, we humans did not evolve from chimps or bonobos. They are our cousins not our ancestors. We share a common ancestor with them and phylogenetic analysis indicates our lineages (between humans and chimps/bonobos) separated around six million years ago.
Who cares? You didn’t pass… which can mean only one thing…
Pity is not enough…There is no emoji for it…
Oh, yes! The imaginary ancestor with no evidence for imaginary transitions…
What’s the current story why none of them survived? COVID 1 targeting only them?
Last time I heard it was mass murder with mass burning of fossil …🤣
What are the possible explanations for the appearance of the chin in humans?
Our imaginary ancestor had some kind of a chin, but monkeys lost it without any evidence of it ever existing….
Or, our imaginary ancestor never had a chin, but it miraculously appeared
via Chin-brian Explosion…🤣
Over 99% of all species that existed are now extinct, apparently, with a median period of existence around 1 to 10 million years. So it’s not unexpected that ancestral species go extinct.
So much for the evolutionary predictions of the 10 billion species on earth currently evolving right in front our eyes…apparently…. Joe Felsenstein so proudly proclaimed…🤗
Just because you don’t need the pink dress, it doesn’t mean you have belive in the obvious contradictions… 😉
Isn’t it another evolutionary miracle?
All the transitional species go extinct and they make sure there is no fossils of them ever existing with the transition leading to the chin…
Chin-brian Explosion indeed…🤣
I don’t actually believe IQ is a useful measure, typically, but I’m guessing in the teens with this one.
Might be worth checking what Joe Felsenstein wrote. Do you have a link?
To win damages against someone who has libeled you, you must prove the written statement was:
false
harmed your reputation or your business’s reputation
published to at least one other person
about you or your business specifically, and
made with some degree of fault and intention.
Seems to me that rises to that level.
If not IQ then certainly age / maturity level.
I suspect you are out by a factor of
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OMagain,
Number of extant species seems to be an informed guess or prediction rather than a verifiable fact. But it would be good to check what he actually said rather than rely on J-Mac’s recall.
I didn’t say “they can’t”. I said “they don’t” as far as we see. There’s variability (with regression to the mean as explained) and there’s adaptation to the environment. That’s all. No “evolution” needed.
Says the one who believes … well … you know, that some magical being in the sky “designed” him. J-Mac loves the pain of shooting himself in the foot. Maybe he’s a masochist. Wait, a person designed to be a masochist by an all-powerful, benevolent, magical being in the sky.