Moderation Issues (5)

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2,097 thoughts on “Moderation Issues (5)

  1. keiths:

    Looks like I hit the nail on the head.

    Mung:

    Looks like you hit the ass on the behind.

    That’s one way of describing J-Mac, I guess.

  2. BruceS: Is it just me, or is everyone finding TSZ response times very slow.

    Same here. There have been multiple posters complaining too.

  3. walto:
    Corneel,

    Bad for awhile. Better. Then bad again.

    I noticed it was down momentarily then came back faster. Sometimes a reboot can do that: down due to reboot, that seems to fix issue, but then issues with server software causes gradual degradation.

    That gives a an excuse for a war story from my PM days. Not as sad as not meeting Putnam, however.

    At one point, I was PM for a project involving some of the software for the local phone company’s first attempt at automated voice response. We knew the software had a memory leak but did not have time to promote a fix before the planned launch. Of course, as Mr Murphy predicts, it failed on the weekend before that Monday launch (after a big ad campaign). Bell called in their prime vendor, IBM, who wanted to do code reviews and all sorts of other time wasters.
    “Just reboot the damn server!” I said as that would fix it for a few days. Eventually they did, but it’s PM experiences like that that make me glad I am retired.

  4. Another issue:
    I have found that links work in the preview of a post, but then if I post the comment and try to edit after, in the saved, editted version the links stop working. I’ve noticed from re-editing that the editing process seems to insert a “nofollow” parameter into the <a> tag; possibly that is related as deleting it fixes the issue with the link.

    Another one else have this happen to them?

  5. Just alerting you to the fact that my most recent post is a paradigm case of an ad hom thatought to be guanoed for the good of the site.

    I have no apology to make to the hom, however. After I took the trouble to actually thank him for a flimsy, semi-apology for having made a nonsensical and insulting post, he started right back in again, falsely accusing me of ridicule without any trace of evidence. (Even a couple of my defenders said that if I’d been guilty of ridicule, it was only for my post here, though in actuality, there had been no ridicule anywhere: I’d said only that I wouldn’t want any recognizable Jesus talk at my own funeral. Unless we start instituting a blasphemy standard here, my personal preferences ought not to be considered ridicule.)

    Anyhow, you should probably guano my comment, but fmm can really go fuck his ‘respectful’ xtian self.

  6. walto: Just alerting you to the fact that my most recent post is a paradigm case of an ad hom thatought to be guanoed for the good of the site.

    I saw that when it first showed up. At that time, I decided to give it a pass, because of the provocation. But do try to avoid such incidents.

  7. I think it’s better for the site to guano such comments, and not ‘give them passes.’ I take it the point of the rule is partly for passers-by to see what sort of a place we have going here. I can’t delete it myself anymore, so I think one of you guys should.

  8. walto:

    Just alerting you to the fact that my most recent post is a paradigm case of an ad hom thatought to be guanoed for the good of the site.

    “Fuck off, fifth” is not an ad hom, walto.

    You should know this. You made the same point yourself in an earlier moderation discussion:

    As keiths said, it’s hostile–i.e., angry, not nice, not very civil. His point is that none of those are rule-violating. To be INSULTING, one has to describe one’s adversary in some nasty way. “Shove it up your ass” is not descriptive, it’s a command (imperative).

  9. Neil,

    I saw that when it first showed up. At that time, I decided to give it a pass, because of the provocation. But do try to avoid such incidents.

    You didn’t need to “give it a pass”, because it didn’t violate any rules.

    Referenced comment moved to guano.

    Why? The fact that walto embarrassed himself is not a rule violation. The comment should not have been moved.

  10. keiths,

    Haha. That’s excellent. You’re (I was) right. It’s technically not ad hom.

    Fwiw, I was actually expecting you to jump in to whack Neil for ‘giving a pass’ on what (i thought was and Neil didn’t suggest was not—though I think should be) a rule violation.

  11. walto,

    Fwiw, I was actually expecting you to jump in to whack Neil for ‘giving a pass’ on what (i thought was and Neil didn’t suggest was not—though I think should be) a rule violation.

    Why would you expect that? I’ve been adamant in my opposition to guanoing, even when the rules actually are violated. Why would you expect me to approve of guanoing when the rules aren’t violated?

  12. And if history is any indication, Neil will neither acknowledge nor correct his mistake.

  13. walto,

    Because of your general distaste for moderator exercises of discretion.

    But again, I have been adamantly and consistently opposed to guanoing. It would be completely out of character for me to complain that a comment was not guanoed.

  14. keiths:

    And if history is any indication, Neil will neither acknowledge nor correct his mistake.

    Prediction confirmed.

  15. Mung:
    Can’t we just spank walto and send him to his room without desert?

    The joke doesn’t work so well in English. Dessert is a lovely pudding. The desert has lots of sand.

  16. Alan Fox: The joke doesn’t work so well in English. Dessert is a lovely pudding. The desert has lots of sand.

    “Desert” also means “what is coming to one.”

  17. Anyway, dessert is peripheral. What Mung is really excited about is spanking walto.

  18. keiths:
    Anyway, dessert is peripheral.What Mung is really excited about is spanking walto.

    I’m afraid he’ll be disappointed. 🙁

  19. Heads up on tools. Am I unable to edit the post I just sent or can it be re-tweaked?

  20. Lots of names getting called these days, but moderators should be particularly attentive to J-Mac who is gay-baiting dazz in the gliding snake thread.

  21. Joe Felsenstein:
    Lots of names getting called these days, but moderators should be particularly attentive to J-Mac who is gay-baitingdazzin the gliding snake thread.

    Is this the best you can do, Joe?
    I guess Joe didn’t see dazz’s comments to me… Or simply chose not to see them…The optimism bias at its best… just like in his evolutionary speculations…
    Would you like me to provide you with a link, Joe? Or you will be able to find it considering that you have all this free time not really contributing to the gliding snake OP with all the experimental evidence you must have?
    What a shame!

  22. Joe Felsenstein: Lots of names getting called these days, but moderators should be particularly attentive to J-Mac who is gay-baiting dazz in the gliding snake thread.

    It’s disgusting and it should be against the rules but it isn’t and it can’t be.

  23. Kantian Naturalist: It’s disgusting and it should be against the rules but it isn’t and it can’t be.

    So, you also didn’t see dazz’s comments to me? Or, just like Joe, chose to ignore them and not to remember them…
    Speaking of disgusting… bias is one of them just in case you didn’t know…

  24. Joe Felsenstein: “Address the post, not the poster” would seem to cover it.

    Indeed. But that is a slippery slope. Next thing you know the posts of keiths and dazz and OMagain and Rumraket will end up in Guano.

  25. Mung,

    Indeed. But that is a slippery slope. Next thing you know the posts of keiths and dazz and OMagain and Rumraket will end up in Guano.

    And just about everyone else, including you.

    I like the idea of leaving J-Mac’s comments in place. He makes himself look like an idiot and a prick. Why do him the favor of hiding his idiocy in a back thread?

  26. keiths: And just about everyone else, including you.

    It would seem that I am failing at being the change that I don’t want to see.

    What’s my most recent personal attack on you? I am sure you keep a list somewhere. 🙂

  27. Mung,

    Don’t ask for evidence of what everyone already knows, including you. You habitually violate “address the post, not the poster”.

  28. keiths: You habitually violate “address the post, not the poster”.

    I bow to your expertise and experience.

  29. Gregory: Am I unable to edit the post I just sent or can it be re-tweaked?

    Repeating the request to access editing tools to Moderators more directly. Who are the Mods now anyway?

  30. Gregory,

    Currently active moderators are Neil, Vincent, and myself.

    What changes would you like to make to your post?

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