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Please use this thread for alerting admins to moderation issues and for discussion or complaints arising from particular decisions.
Better make that BYE! Looks like your racist ass is about to get bounced, and good riddance.
Its been so long, actually I forgot why I started it.
Oh wait, I remember why now, to promote guerilla skepticism! Ok, I am back, start censoring!
Does anyone, anyone, actually believe Lizzie will allow posters here to insult her at the same level that has been allowed here by others for the past year?
Because if you do, I want to know who the suckers are now, so I can say I told you so (although Lizzie will probably ban that as well).
newton,
Not at all. The wise choice would have been for him to follow the rules, leaving it up to Lizzie to establish new ones if she so desired.
This is her blog, not his. Her tules should apply, not his. He’s created more than enough trouble already by overstepping his bounds, abusing his moderator privileges, and inventing new rules instead of deferring to Lizzie’s.
It would depend on the level of autonomy she allows him, based on her trust that he make the necessary practical decisions to implement her vision. It seems in this case he accurately anticipated her desires for the blog . In fact Alan’s response was milder than EL’s which equated racist remarks with pornography.
Not sure exactly what Trouble Alan has caused . Then again ,my view is being a moderator is a thankless job and anyone willing to do it should be give a lot of slack.
I think everyone believes guerillas exist
newton,
A lot. And due not just to incompetence, but also to serious character defects. I’ll summarize his appalling record for you and for others who may also be unaware. It may not be for a few days, however. I’m in the Tetons for the eclipse, so my priorities are elsewhere, and in any case internet connectivity is expected to be limited due to the heavy visitor traffic.
A lot. But mostly just for keiths. Which makes Alan ok in my book.
To fellow TSZers,
Robert Byers has agreed not to post further racist comments, so the pre-moderation has been lifted from his account.
Alan Fox,
Have you gotten the same guarantee from Sal?
phoodoo,
Post a link to the offending material, please. I promise I’ll have a look.
Sounds like a nice place to view the eclipse , I eagerly await your criticism of the moon’s performance.
Why, you are the one who wants to censor people, not me. Its your new rule.
When will the new No Free Speech rules be posted?
There is no rule that says they have to post the rules.
There is also no rule that says they have to follow the rules they post. Or don’t post.
iirc Byers was banned at UD for his misogynist statements. Will that be next on the list of banned speech? More and more like UD every day. LoL.
That should make you happy
It doesn’t take much.
Mung,
I was genuinely surprised by Robert’s racist comment. I don’t make a habit of reading his comments here, let alone elsewhere. What little I have read, led me to categorise him as (mostly) harmless. Until then, it had never occurred to me that we would need any explicit rule regarding racist comments.
You mention misogyny. I very much regret not being around when this “discussion” unfolded. Had Lizzie been participating actively, I suspect she may have felt it necessary to intervene.
Finally you get it, the owner has no obligation to you,
“Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.”
newton,
Amusingly, you are the one rushing to judgment here. Why not wait for the facts before deciding whether I am being hypercritical of Alan?
Is the pleasure of judging me too gratifying for you to delay?
Matthew 7:1 😉
Alan, to Mung:
You took that discussion to be misogynist? Good grief, Alan. As Rich pointed out, it was hotshoe who brought gender into the discussion with her “goddamned dudebro atheist assholes” comment.
Your got it exactly backwards. A perfect illustration of why we don’t need moderators — and particularly not bad ones — judging whether comments qualify as racist or sexist.
Rather a perfect illustration as to why you need an eye kept on you.
Right. Have to keep an eye on the one who isn’t making sexist comments, while giving a free pass to the one — hotshoe — who is.
That’s pitiful, Alan. Your bias is embarrassing.
Thanks and I am pretty sure you are going hypercritical due to this
Keiths ” A lot. And due not just to incompetence, but also to serious character defects. I’ll summarize his appalling record for you and for others who may also be unaware”
Perhaps you mean, I should wait to see if your hypercritical judgement is justified.
It was more of an observation than a judgement and it was about a 3. Then I am not one to judge
If anyone thinks keiths is not hypocritical let him speak now or forever hold his peace.
newton,
If my criticism is justified, then yours isn’t. Why not wait for the facts instead of going off half-cocked?
newton, the past is key to the present.
I’d rather be on a desert island with keiths for life then spend a day trapped in a lift with you, Mung.
Alan Fox,
Alan,
Thanks for trying hard to keep the forum civilized! While I admit that I had needed to improve my communication, which I did (I may still need to do a better job though) this blog is becoming a WASP nest for the main part…
If everyone treated each other with respect, despite differences of opinion and skin color, we wouldn’t live in the world we live today…
BTW: I just submitted Mystery #5. I hope you or Rumraket or someone else can approve it quick so that people can focus on something other then hateful speech…
J-Mac,
Your latest OP should now be visible.
Well, I gues we could all try such thought experiments.
Anyone like to suggest who they’d least like and most like to either be marooned on a desert island with or just trapped in a lift with? Currently, I think Donald Trump would be the person I’d least* like to be marooned with. I’m struggling with who would be a good choice. Does it only include people currently living?
ETA It might be interesting to be trapped in a lift with Keiths. We might both be surprised.
ETA2 * Oops!!!
Alan Fox,
Thanks Alan! 🙂
I’m sure he’d find a way to blame you, lol.
Mung,
Only if it was his fault.
But if the past is the key to the present, as you say, then it would be hotshoe who would get us stuck, and Alan would blame me.
Fault is for determinists to argue over.
Alan Fox,
Does the commenter on ” Ignore Commenter” know he is being ignored and his comments do not show on the side of the one who activated that feature?
Nope
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dazz: Nope
Gracias por tu ayuda! 😉
I love it when Glen acts as if he’s actually interested in having a discussion.
Glen is free to express his views whether he is interested in further discussion or not… It’s my digestive system that can’t seem to tolerate profound ignorance, acute lack of sensibleness and common sense…
There’s nothing in the site software that gives an indication of who is ignoring you. However, you might get some hints from what people post.
If you open the site in a private browsing window in your browser, then you will see posts by people you are ignoring. That’s because the site doesn’t know who you are when you use private browsing.
Really clever, dishonest dumbfuck.
There is some sense that asshat Mung is correct, I’m not interested in responding to what hateful shitheads like Mung, phoodoo, and J-Mac write. The only point is to respond to their bullshit in ways that get around the idiocy and unreason of fuckheads like them.
Glen DavidsonM
Neil Rickert,
Thanks! I just figured it 😉
The cumulative effect of past events results in the present, a novel idea.
I disagree ,my ribbing of you was independent of justifications, right or wrong.
He’s one of the worst offenders when it comes to breaking the rules of the site and he consistently gets away with it. But who has time to babysit him?
He should be on constant moderation filter until he learns to act like a grownup.
Remind us again why Joe G was banned? Wasn’t it for refusing to suck up to one of the mods?