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The Skeptical Zone
"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken."
Please use this thread for alerting admins to moderation issues and for discussion or complaints arising from particular decisions.
If only there was honesty and sincerity behind these lame attempts at humorous deflection.
Get out there, and do the Lord’s work. You’re wasting precious time.
What has to be done to get you to leave permanently? 🙂
phoodoo,
No I don’t Phoodoo. Probably because I didn’t. But facts, accuracy and importance are of little importance to you. Go back and read the posts you started, and reflect.
Start supporting the claims of your position with actual science. Unfortunately for you that will never happen.
Adapa,
Frankie certainly doesn’t break the rules worse than you do. So I am going to mock you until Alan comes to his senses.
First Alan refuses to admit there is no theory of evolution, he refuses to even let the topic be discussed, and now this. He is worse than any accusations he has against Barry. Perhaps Alan is not really serious about discussions as I thought. He may also be one of those guerilla skeptics like Lizzie.
If Alan doesn’t think that there are other posters here who ROUTINELY break the rules, he is completely unqualified to be a moderator of any kind. There are no theist moderators here, the site operates as a mouthpiece for bullshit skeptic science, and you don’t deserve quality content.
maybe you should stick to the science and wisdom of UD, Phoodoo, as you’re so discerning?
Richardthughes,
Don’t you ever learn from your past mistakes Richard? It was embarrassing enough for you when you admitted you are only here to troll, you really want to relive that?
Put down the platypus.
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don’t. Why don’t you pull up the quote Phoodoo? Let’s relive it.
The reason I enabled pre-moderation for Frankie/Joe Gallien is his penchant for bombarding this site with flurries of virtually content-free, repetitive and unresponsive comments. It’s effectively spam. Frankie, despite previous warnings and requests, shows no inclination to follow the rules of the site, let alone the aims.
That’s a pretty stupid remark.
Submit an OP. As I’ve pointed out, Darwin first proposed an evolutionary theory by proposing the mechanism of natural selection. This has stood the test of time and is a basic tenet of the modern theory, which takes account of genetics. A discussion that merely claims black is white is not going to be very productive.
Frankie can still post comments. They will all be approved unless they are defamatory or contain porn or promote illegal acts. Some may move directly to guano if they break the rules.
Barry Arrington? As has been pointed out, no record of Barry’s deleted comments remains at UD. No record of Barry’s deleted OPs remains at UD. Even Vincent Torley, a sincere ID proponent, had an OP disappeared from UD. My “Aurelio Smith” contributions at UD were disappeared by Arrington, according to Jon Bartlett, for “being an asshole”. I think I have a fair way to go to get any where near matching Arrington’s moderation record.
Oh yes. I see you mention that Lizzie Liddle got herself banned from Uncommon descent. Is there anywhere on that site an explanation or reason given for that action – even a way of making such an enquiry?
The raison d’ĂŞtre at TSZ doesn’t suit everyone. Sure, some members find it harder to stay within the guidelines.
I’ll concede that though Jon Bartlett is an admin here, he does not appear to have the time to be actively involved.
The aim of this blog is to facilitate communication between people of widely varying viewpoints. It may be a vain hope that this is even possible. The rules that have evolved here are intended to support that aim. Anyone with ideas they think would help foster that aim are encouraged to post them here.
Alan is welcome to his own opinion but he isn’t welcome to his own facts. All of my responses refute what I am responding to.
Darwin proposed NS as a designer mimic and no one has ever demonstrated such a thing. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. He couldn’t test his claims and no one else has been able to.
YOU don’t follow the rules, Alan. You don’t post in good faith. You just post knee-jerk reactions and your own opinions, never supporting anything with actual science.
So go soak your head, hypocrite
johnnyb might disagree with you.
Finally you explain why you comment here.
Alan Fox,
I don’t agree with you at all that Frankie’s posts amount to spam, especially if you don’t apply the same measurement to Richard, Adapa, Dazz, Omagain…etc.
Richard is an admitted troll, dazz doesn’t even care about the rules, and adapa never says anything other than empty insults. I don’t know how you can overlook that fact. Such your actions are very one sided. I see Frankie responds to the empty bullshit people give him with likewise retorts. I don’t know how you can claim that he is the instigator.
Patrick,
Johnnyb does not exist as a moderator here. That is complete fiction.
Alan Fox,
Alan, when you finally take a similar stand against some of the people that are on your own team, that I might believe you are serious.
Your beliefs are your own business. However, most commenters who have found difficulty with the rules either adapt to them or leave. The only similar problem I can recall was with a member “thewholetruth” who persisted in flouting the rule on “outing”. That member did not want to compromise and left. He/she was a strong ID skeptic.
johnnyb posts here, so some entity or process with the ability to use that pseudonym exists. I’m willing to call whatever that is johnnyb. The johnnyb account here has admin privs.
If you’d like him to take a more active role, you should address him (or the entity or process controlling that nym) directly. Be careful what you wish for — if I were on your side of the debate I’d want you to tone down your comments.
Richie is still here and doesn’t play by the rules. OMagain, adapa, acartia- same thing. Their posts are worse than mine.
Obviously you are just a hypocrite, Alan
And yet you do nothing to stop the likes of Richie, adapa, acartia and OMagain. You are being a hypocrite, Patrick
I’d say that Rich, OM and adapa have adapted their styles over time and they all manage to stay within the rules on the whole. It could be I’ve missed rule-breaking comments. I don’t and I suspect Neil and Patrick don’t either, manage to read all comments these days. It is open to anyone to report a comment they think needs an admin’s attention. PM system works best for me as it flags up when I log in. Acartia is a newer member but I haven’t noticed any issue with his comments.
Check that spelling on “obvioulsy”! 🙂
I don’t think the people you mentioned reflect badly on the views I hold. If they break Lizzie’s rules I will move the offending comments to Guano, even if I happen to agree with the content. Otherwise, they don’t suffer fools gladly. Good for them.
That’s accurate. I do make a point of reading Frankie’s comments because of his history here. That may create a bias in what shows up in Guano. On the other hand, I almost never read Robert Byers, despite the fact that I often disagree with him, when I’m skimming fast because he’s never been a problem. (Please don’t start posting NSFW material, Robert.)
No, I don’t.
Let’s not forget that Frankie is actually banned for his shameful “Tunie” remarks, it just the admins here are far too nice..
Umm, they are the fools. And if you and I ever had a debate I would show that you are also a fool
That is your opinion and it makes you look like a hypocrite
Sounds like fun. I invite you to prepare a post discussing aleph-null, aleph-one, and the sizes of various infinite sets. As long as it doesn’t violate any of Lizzie’s rules, I’ll approve it and we can discuss it in the comments.
Frankie,
Meet in the parking lot for a debate.
Umm a debate pertaining to ID vs evolutionism. You have already admitted that your position’s claims cannot be tested.
Patrick,
I’ve hacked Joe’s account and have his thesis: ‘if the universe is really finite how come I get get infinite breadsticks at Olive Garden?’
Yes, Richie, I would love to meet you in a parking lot…
Frankie,
Zzzzzzz. Not this again chubs. You’re old fat and dillusional. I’ll be there at your impending ID court case. eyeroll
LoL!@Richie- I will have you subpoenaed so everyone can see that evolutionism turns people into imbeciles
Darn, I was hoping to finally see you demonstrate mathematically that the set of even integers is smaller than the set of integers.
Why Frankie, that’s just an out and out lie. For shame. This isn’t UD, you know.
If you want to debate ID vs modern evolutionary theory, please prepare a post with a detailed description of the scientific hypothesis of intelligent design, the observations that led to that hypothesis, the testable entailments of that hypothesis, and any supporting tests. Since ID is supposed to be able to stand on its own, please do not reference modern evolutionary theory in any way.
As with my suggested set theory post (which I very much hope you will consider writing), if it doesn’t violate any of Lizzie’s rules, I’ll approve it and we can discuss it in the comments.
You do that sweetheart. That’s 100% how the law works. You’ll be representing yourself I hope? Do you say ‘tat’ when you’re flustered?
Mung suggested some time ago that the rules in Moderation Issues should be relaxed only to the extent that discussion of moderation issues can take place. No one, aside from the admins, should be subject to written abuse simply for wanting to discuss those issues. I agree with him and hope Lizzie makes that change.
Until she does, I would like to ask solely in my role as a participant here that everyone move the pure flaming to Noyau.
All you have to do is match up the like numbers and whatever is left unmatched is your answer
You have already admitted that your position’s claims cannot be tested.
When you said there is no way to falsify ID you are saying there is no way to test the claims of your position. That is because by verifying the claims of your position you falsify ID
No problem. However you are going to have to do the same and that includes referencing this alleged modern theory of evolution- which we all know you cannot do. And we all know that you cannot say how to test the claim that ATP synthase arose via blind watchmaker processes.
So you can bluff all you want. I already know that you have nothing to argue from/ with.
And no, ID isn’t supposed to stand on its own. It ALWAYS has to be pitted against stochastic processes. See you don’t even understand science.
Richie, Please reference the law that prevents me from subpoenaing people who can help me make my case.
Set subtraction does nicely.
Frankie,
If you think that’s how it works and you can find a lawyer that’ll do that for you, good luck. Maybe Barry?
Please summarize your thoughts in a post so we can get the discussion out of Moderation Issues. You may want to reference Cantor in your discussion of the topic (just a suggestion).
Please summarize your thoughts in a post so we can get the discussion out of Moderation Issues.You may want to reference Cantor in your discussion of the topic (just a suggestion).
I already told you what I will debate you on. But I know why you don’t want to
Outing will get you banned. Except when it won’t.
On the contrary, I await your detailed description of the scientific theory of intelligent design and its testable entailments with bated breath. I’m clicking on the New Posts page so often it’s wearing out my mouse.
I’m old, fat and lusional.
Mung,
Really? You think identifying sockpuppets (with limited vocabulary and who link to their own blog) is outing?
What do we do with the impure flaming?
PM me so I don’t miss it.
You can start it, Patrick. Start by referencing the actual modern theory of evolution and its testable entailments- I dare you. What are you waiting for?
Getting a head start on running away, are you Frankie?
I recall Lizzie saying that, in her absence, she’s happy to let her fellow admins to decide on these issues. I totally agree that this thread should be for moderation issues and utterly off-topic comments should be guano’d. We have Noyau and that should be enough.
Let the flames be posted in Noyau. This thread is for discussing moderation issues.