According to historian Tad Stoermer, Liberal Nationalists are enabling far right MAGA extremists, and the consequences could be dire.

Here’s how Stoermer describes Liberal Nationalism and the role it plays in american politics:

There’s a belief system that combines two things — first, that change must happen through official channels (voting, courts, proper debate), and second, that this procedural faith is wrapped in American exceptionalism. The system isn’t just legitimate. It is sacred because America itself is exceptional.

Now here’s where it gets complicated. Klein says the project is “the American experiment.” Newsom builds on that. Kirk said the same things, but meant something completely different. Kirk’s American experiment would destroy Klein’s and Newsom’s — he wanted to dismantle multiracial democracy, restrict voting, and return to what he called the real Founders’ vision. That would end everything Klein and Newsom claim to value.

 

Yet Klein’s nationalism enables Kirk’s. By treating Kirk’s anti-democratic project as legitimate discourse within the American experiment, by claiming they share common ground, Klein validates extremism as just another voice in the great American conversation.

 

And I keep wondering: Does the white Christian nationalist movement understand something about liberal nationalism that we don’t? Do they realize that as long as they frame their goals in terms of the Constitution, the Founders, and the American experiment, individuals like Klein will always find common ground with them?

I found other notable liberal figures saying similar things while perusing twitter. Notably senator John Fetterman recently insisted that americans (sorry, I refuse to capitalize demonyms. Sue me) should stop calling Trump an autocrat and pleaded for toning down the anti-Trump rhetoric. To me this attitude plays right into MAGA’s hands. This is the kind of stuff that whitewashes bigotry and helps reactionaries move the Overton window further right.

I would venture that in a similar situation, on this side of the pond we would be out on the streets, striking the economy to a screeching halt. But in the US, there seems to be this nationalist bootlicking mentality that prevents people from even considering direct action, simply because they believe the system will somehow fix itself and everything will be honky dory in the end.

I can’t help but think the US of A was never truly the haven of freedom we were told it was. And as much as I appreciate the comparably stronger fighting spirit of the working class here, I’m not sure it will be enough to resist the rise of the far right here in Europe either, propped up by the ever influential american politics. I’m a pessimist, so please give me hope, or don’t. Thoughts, please?

453 thoughts on “According to historian Tad Stoermer, Liberal Nationalists are enabling far right MAGA extremists, and the consequences could be dire.

  1. colewd: The demonisation of him ie Hitler, liar, pedophile, etc is from those strongly attached to the left.

    JD Vance called Trump Hitler, so… JD Vance is “strongly attached to the left”? You are full of bull by any standard, including your own.

    Right-wingers, especially extremist wackos, also call Trump Hitler – and they love him for it. This includes JD Vance.

  2. petrushka:
    Unpopular opinion. Trump is an actor with 14 years experience on television.

    I think everything he says and does is a performance.

    What are you saying here? That Trump is as good as Reagan, another actor-president?

    But Reagan’s acting career was one thing and his presidency another. Whereas Trump’s TV career and clownade at the office are the same smokescreen of lies and deception, not to mention a display of incompetence (and bad acting, if it’s supposed to be judged based on acting).

    Do you think it’s okay that “everything he says and does is a performance”? Whatever they did together with Epstein was also “a performance”?

    Let’s do some research to see if you are right on anything: “Republicans are split with 40 percent approving of the way the Trump administration is handling the Jeffrey Epstein files, 36 percent disapproving and 24 percent not offering an opinion.” https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3928 (it’s from July, but still probably the most recent on this exact topic showing the partisan split)

    So, looking at it your way, i.e. the hypocritical hyperpartisan way, more people of your ilk approve of Trump’s handling of the Epstein files (or “performance” as you call it) than disapprove. Sorry, you are, as always, absolutely wrong on everything! Your opinion – defend the pedo to your last breath – is POPULAR where you stand 😀

  3. Neil Rickert: Can you learn the difference between “boarder” and “border”. I’m getting tired of seeing this mistake.

    Typos like these are some of the last signs of humanity that colewd displays – ignorant and very depraved, but still human. These are signs that we are not interacting directly with Grokbot, but someone with their little hands is retyping from Grokbot with heart-warmingly human errors.

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