{"id":4929,"date":"2014-08-11T23:04:04","date_gmt":"2014-08-11T22:04:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/?p=4929"},"modified":"2014-08-11T23:04:04","modified_gmt":"2014-08-11T22:04:04","slug":"stephenb-sets-a-challenge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/stephenb-sets-a-challenge\/","title":{"rendered":"StephenB sets a challenge"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At UD StephenB stakes his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uncommondescent.com\/intelligent-design\/do-we-need-a-context-to-identify-a-message-as-the-product-of-an-intelligent-being\/#comment-510252\">claim<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #505050\">Support the claim that one must always understand the context of a message in order to know that it is, indeed, a message.<\/span><b style=\"color: #505050\">Describe a specific context, the absence of which would make it impossible to know if a meaningful message consisting of 100 characters was designed by an intelligent agent.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s <em>283<\/em> characters.<\/p>\n<p>`<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-3f232e89cd5a38329b95a2ef18d7e13d_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#61;&#96;&#59;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"15\" width=\"28\" style=\"vertical-align: -3px;\"\/>_=\\%!;(<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-1058b0546831d64b08762a12d48a459d_l3.png\" class=\"ql-img-inline-formula quicklatex-auto-format\" alt=\"&#95;&#41;&#61;&#47;&#40;&#46;&#41;&#47;&#59;\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com\" height=\"21\" width=\"71\" style=\"vertical-align: -7px;\"\/>==++<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" 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