{"id":37386,"date":"2016-07-20T17:18:16","date_gmt":"2016-07-20T16:18:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/?p=37386"},"modified":"2016-07-20T17:18:16","modified_gmt":"2016-07-20T16:18:16","slug":"kinds","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/kinds\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Kinds&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Time for a discussion of &#8220;kinds&#8221;, i.e. &#8220;created kinds&#8221;, known to some as baramins. More specifically, holobaramins, an originally created (no ancestors, that is) population and all its descendants. But from now on I&#8217;ll just call them kinds, as long as we can agree on the intended meaning. There can be no kinds within kinds. Each one is a separate tree in a creationist&#8217;s phylogenetic orchard.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t mean to go on long. This is really intended as a place for creationists to attempt to answer important questions of baraminology. Can a kind encompass more than one species? How can you know whether two species belong to the same or different kinds? Would we expect to see something obvious to differentiate them?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen several criteria proposed, some of which work in only one direction. If two species hybridize, it&#8217;s claimed, they must be the same kind; but if they don&#8217;t, that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re different kinds. If a transition between two species is not &#8220;mechanically feasible&#8221;, they must be different kinds; but if it is, that doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;re the same kind. Other criteria I&#8217;ve seen are &#8220;discontinuity&#8221;, whatever that is, intuitive recognition (seriously, that&#8217;s an actual claim), and of course biblical exegesis. Can we agree to leave out the last?<\/p>\n<p>Finally, can some creationist use those criteria, or any other, to designate at least a few entities that he is sure are kinds? Then we&#8217;ll have something concrete to argue about.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Time for a discussion of &#8220;kinds&#8221;, i.e. &#8220;created kinds&#8221;, known to some as baramins. More specifically, holobaramins, an originally created (no ancestors, that is) population and all its descendants. But from now on I&#8217;ll just call them kinds, as long &hellip; <a href=\"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/kinds\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":67748,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-37386","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37386","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/67748"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=37386"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/37386\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=37386"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=37386"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/theskepticalzone.com\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=37386"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}