A thread for keiths where he can ask all the questions he likes and go on undisturbed in his soliloquy while the rest of us remain silent.
*kiss*
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"I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken."
No doubt Euthyphro thought Socrates was a Grand Inquisitor.
Perhaps Euthyphro and Laches and Callicles and all the rest whose self-serving dogmas were eviscerated by Socratic questioning wouldn’t have minded if Socrates had kept to himself — but boy, once he insisted on cross-examining people in the marketplace, did he ever deserve his hemlock!
Speak for yourself, Mung. Besides you and Gregory, I can’t think of anyone here among the regulars who is afraid of stating and arguing for his or her beliefs.
Nor I. Even people who are really not very good at it still give it a shot.
By the way, keiths, I have not forgotten that I owe you a continuation of our conversation about the difference between disclosive/expressive and assertoric/epistemic discourse. I’ve been traveling a good bit, and my own thinking got side-tracked by thinking about the difference and relation between cognition and affects (feeling, moods, desires, emotions). I think I am now prepared to say that disclosive discourse expresses what I might call “core affects”: affective states that are partially constitutive of one’s self-understanding. That is why they can be deeply significant to one, but not veridical or assertoric.
KN,
Perhaps we can do a thread on it when you’re done traveling and have more time to devote to the discussion.
It’s an interesting topic that comes up a lot in the atheism debates.
By all means, start the new thread on it if you want. I’m done traveling for a while, though my new semester begins this week and I’ll have somewhat less time for TSZ.
How classlessly Arringtonesque. Excuse me while I run off to start the ‘Innumerate Mung’s Butthurt Emporium’ thread.
It’s no doubt a commandment of Jesus that Mung is following.
Mung,
You flatter yourself. “us”. Laughable.
Love Gielgud. Especially in Brideshead and Providence–but basically in everything.
A homosexual, atheist actor playing Grand Inquisitor. Who’d have thought it?
Dostoevsky’s story is powerful medicine; steady in the ‘western’ world. But doubtful many staunch, bitter (neo) atheists at TAZ could stomach to hear it. They act not only numb but illiterate.
What a sad, hateful little man you come across as, Gregory.
There’s too much love and beauty in that story to be misunderstood by simple atheists as hatred or sadness. The Brothers Karamazov is a masterpiece that atheists may not have the courage to actually read. The hardened heart may not allow vertical understanding. But to misrepresent love as hate is just silly. It is not wrong to hate evil (Psalm 97: 10), even as the minority of comfortably numb atheists, outspoken at TAZ, bask in it.
Still bitter, Greg? The first step is stop being a Bellend. Then don’t give comically bad talks about a subject that is clearly beyond you. Or teach it.
Hollywood should hire you to do background checks of potential actors!
Beware, homos and reform Jews! He’s coming for your jobs!
No. we should ask Gregory to provide us lists of (homosexual) atheist actors so we all can seek out their work and enjoy it even more.
Think how much better you would feel about valuing someone’s performance as a movie character if you weren’t worried that, deep down, the actor’s a crazy cultist who’s using their share of fortune and fame to subsidize child indoctrination, abuse of women, etc.
Oh wait, that does happen.
Gregory can do us all a great public service!
How about it, Gregory, share your actor list with us.